tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post3974545120540982256..comments2024-03-28T08:40:23.164-05:00Comments on Guitar Ted Productions: Deadwood Sus Introduced By Salsa CyclesGuitar Tedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10960580677548417562noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-4724839935808834392017-04-06T18:38:26.914-05:002017-04-06T18:38:26.914-05:00"What I would be most interested in is a ligh..."What I would be most interested in is a lighter weight aluminum or steel hardtail that wasn't doing the super-trail oriented hard tail thing (Krampus, et al), and wasn't a full on sled (ECR or Jones) I think a El Mariachi 29+ would be what I would want, in titanium, and with some more XC thrown into the geo mix."<br /><br />This. 1000 times. This.<br /><br />Please Salsa Cycles. Please. Ti El Mar 29+. Use the Fargo dropouts. Use the Firestarter fork if you like. I would prefer a light rigid fork like that anyways. <br /><br />You might not think you would sell too many, but do it well and I will promote it like no other...well, no other besides Mark anyway.<br /><br />You are a wise man Guitar Ted. Thanks for all your written words. They have helped since back when we were on MTBR forums all the time. Ride Alongsidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11997353231227474167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-39361607220461955222017-02-15T18:34:17.038-05:002017-02-15T18:34:17.038-05:00@Guitar Ted - Ugh :/@Guitar Ted - Ugh :/Steve Fullerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04000254083516026697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-87487011431222215862017-02-15T16:02:15.401-05:002017-02-15T16:02:15.401-05:00@Smithhammer- I tried a Borealis Echo set up as a ...@Smithhammer- I tried a Borealis Echo set up as a 29+ rig that had a Bluto fork. It weighed well under 30lbs, even with aluminum rims. <br /><br />That is significant when you consider climbing on a bike. If the tire/suspension package helps you climb better than a 29+ wheel alone, you may be able to overlook that weight. However; that Echo showed me I may not really need rear suspension for that factor. <br /><br />What I would be most interested in is a lighter weight aluminum or steel hardtail that wasn't doing the super-trail oriented hard tail thing (Krampus, et al), and wasn't a full on sled (ECR or Jones) I think a El Mariachi 29+ would be what I would want, in titanium, and with some more XC thrown into the geo mix. Guitar Tedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10960580677548417562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-48725640722200132342017-02-15T15:48:29.021-05:002017-02-15T15:48:29.021-05:00I like it, but wish it weren't carbon... That ...I like it, but wish it weren't carbon... That said, the red XT version sure is pretty.MGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14301752250721808758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-17394434288503059992017-02-15T15:14:57.732-05:002017-02-15T15:14:57.732-05:00I'm still holding out hope that the new Deadwo...I'm still holding out hope that the new Deadwood is more than just the sum of its numbers. I threw a leg over one yesterday and did a few parking lot laps, and I think it has potential. <br /><br />On the other hand, the price is high, and so is the weight. For what I would be using a bike like this for, I think I could be just as happy on a good 29+ hardtail with a 120-130mm fork, that would be lighter and cost less...Smithhammerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01771440476655478031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-24806372424331190242017-02-15T11:23:12.309-05:002017-02-15T11:23:12.309-05:00Steve - I didn't look at the weights, but my f...Steve - I didn't look at the weights, but my first thought was that the Bucksaw had to be close. I agree, I'd spend the money on the Bucksaw.Iowagrizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06801399715901347033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-9973953824437350242017-02-14T18:53:30.796-05:002017-02-14T18:53:30.796-05:008 oz less than a Carbon Bucksaw (set up tubeless) ...8 oz less than a Carbon Bucksaw (set up tubeless) per Salsa's website, and the same price. Granted, the Bucksaw is shipping with carbon rims. Personally, if I had the choice of which bike to drop 6K on, I think I'd personally opt for the Bucksaw.Steve Fullerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04000254083516026697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-79086788473642069572017-02-14T11:04:19.215-05:002017-02-14T11:04:19.215-05:00@Iowagriz- Those big meats weigh a lot. 1000+ gram...@Iowagriz- Those big meats weigh a lot. 1000+ grams for trail worthy tires. I think the Rangers with the thicker sidewalls for anti-tear/puncture resistance weigh around 1200gms <br /><br />That's why it climbs slow. ;>)<br /><br />That is a lot of jack to get that bike and still have a 30+ lb bike. Seems a bit extreme. Guitar Tedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10960580677548417562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-61953935741081538982017-02-14T11:01:46.188-05:002017-02-14T11:01:46.188-05:00Man oh man this bike gets me excited.At 6'7&qu...Man oh man this bike gets me excited.At 6'7" though I wish it had another 15-25mm in the top tube.That being said if they do come out with an aluminum version for 3000 or less I may have a really hard time not pulling the trigger and going back to riding a long stem.I do think optimum for me would be a xxl size 120 mm front and rear and aluminum (having never had carbon it still scares me as far as damage goes) and 2x11 say 34/24 Angsteroflovehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05231037953007455765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-29338517118350141292017-02-14T09:38:58.638-05:002017-02-14T09:38:58.638-05:00They had me until I clicked on the $4500 XT versio...They had me until I clicked on the $4500 XT version and saw 33lbs for a size Large. Are the plus sized tires really that much heavier? I'm admittedly a weight weenie, but with other decent FS 29ers at 27lbs, I figured this would still be under 30lbs.<br /><br />Probably a fun bike for Moab playtime and shuttle runs, but I'm not going to pay that kinda money to pedal 33lbs around for hours.Iowagrizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06801399715901347033noreply@blogger.com