tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post4412317472622896467..comments2024-03-28T08:40:23.164-05:00Comments on Guitar Ted Productions: A Further Commentary On The Cummins/DK StoryGuitar Tedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10960580677548417562noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-13919129684184492442020-06-23T15:07:42.895-05:002020-06-23T15:07:42.895-05:00 I think the real lesson in all of this is Capt... I think the real lesson in all of this is Captialism works. When the consumer engages the producer in the market place, change can happen at a rapid and sudden pace. It will move faster than it will with governing bodies. Unfortunately, I think the movement at the this time is correcting the wrong issues. I heard a local educator talk about the real issues that plaque low income homes. He is the only person I have heard address the real inequities and what it leads to. The problem is not the police, the problem is other social issues, and the police are the symptom, not the cause. <br /> My point being, the LGBTQ were making headway into equality before 2008. Corporations were beginning to understand the importance of wealth transfer to their lovers. You have numerous LGBTQ leave organizations because their partner was not considered a spouse. That change was beginning to snowball and then the supreme court ruled in favor of gay marriage. My point is this, the government will respond to the market place. It has too respond to the market place. Knowing that, Lifetime Fitness had no recourse, and had to sever ties. The market deemed it necessary. NY Rollhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09894292869281781075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-37230603347136381372020-06-23T11:28:13.309-05:002020-06-23T11:28:13.309-05:00Adding to the exchange: decades ago I graduated fr...Adding to the exchange: decades ago I graduated from a higher educational institution with a degree in History. I don't recall a professor speaking of a "right" or a "wrong" side. History is an account of human behavior with it's multiple dimensions. We gain more insight and uncover more perspectives over time. This I view as beneficial for learning. However, it causes me to cringe when we label and divide events of humanity into "sides." We all fall short while trying to exist with inherent strengths and weaknesses. Yes, I am responsible for my thoughts, words, and actions as well as their impact. Those are what make up History, not choosing sides of History.Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05433420901997880377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-12875970743171958972020-06-23T10:36:22.425-05:002020-06-23T10:36:22.425-05:00Well said, Brother. I think you and I are very muc...Well said, Brother. I think you and I are very much on the same page here. Thanks for your thoughtful, insightful words.MGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14301752250721808758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-90948808704430190072020-06-23T10:03:32.383-05:002020-06-23T10:03:32.383-05:00@graveldoc- I’d encourage you to share your opinio...@graveldoc- I’d encourage you to share your opinions on social media. Yes it’s still the ‘Wild West’ out here; there’s bots and false news/lies, loads of crap AND the ability to make community. We enjoy our hobby and interests more when we can share and discuss. We create new friends and events and your sphere of influence greatly increases. This current discussion of what it means to be racist, or income inequality, or harassment in the workplace all benefits from a world wide discussion. I’m glad my daughter just entered the corporate world on the heels of the #MeToo movement-she’ll put up with zero shit from a male co-worker or boss. Transparency can be brutal though when we’re used to keeping our opinions hidden. Remember that the young folk know this and are using this to effect change.<br />Change is happening too fast for some and it can be uncomfortable but my heart swells with pride when I see major corporations paying attention to issues that should have been addressed years ago. Companies like Patagonia have proven you can do the ethical, moral thing for the planet and still make a profit. Even NASCAR has decided to be on the right side of history, something I never would have thought possible in my lifetime.<br /><br />As kids we LOVED the party line!GrinnellTimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01678910707609710172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-15768451695749162072020-06-23T10:02:43.042-05:002020-06-23T10:02:43.042-05:00I think one of the tragedies of social media backl...I think one of the tragedies of social media backlash is that in a time when people are calling for serious discussion of these issues, many are fearful to speak about anything at all lest they be "tries and convicted" before having an opportunity to engage with others about their beliefs. Social media engender an environment in which people are encouraged to score "points" by publicly shaming people with a different set of beliefs than their own. Often, this comes at great expense to the target of the shaming. If we continue to follow this approach of self-righteous condemnation we will close all doors to conversation, and potential education and enlightenment of those involved. Ultimately, this will cause more divisiveness than unity around serious cultural issues. Cummins made a mistake, but I think there could have been a better outcome. It may still have ended with his termination, but there could have been more dialogue. Instead, we have a situation in which there are two sides, and each side condemns the other wholesale without any consideration of the implications of doing so. Anonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00299442888961519402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-41249988977563809422020-06-23T08:10:31.949-05:002020-06-23T08:10:31.949-05:00Thank you for being a voice of reason in the maels...Thank you for being a voice of reason in the maelstrom that has developed around this. In the end I believe the event will survive and the community of Emporia will continue to benefit from what Joel and Jim started many years ago. There seems to be enough demand for entries that the spots of those who no longer wish to go will be filled by someone else. The only thing that's constant, is change. <br />S.Fullerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04308484314231606505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-15698020968233024222020-06-23T07:22:43.674-05:002020-06-23T07:22:43.674-05:00@graveldoc - I remember the party line my grandpar...@graveldoc - I remember the party line my grandparents had in rural Iowa. My grandma, she would eavesdrop on others conversations. My grandpa thought it was despicable, and he teased her incessantly for it. Anyway.....<br /><br />I've often typed out an emotional response, sat on it a few minutes, and thought better of it before pushing "enter". The delete key is your best friend on social media!Guitar Tedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10960580677548417562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-71268294731145565702020-06-23T07:13:40.763-05:002020-06-23T07:13:40.763-05:00I grew up in rural west central Missouri. Our tele...I grew up in rural west central Missouri. Our telephone line was on a party line. In other words, neighbors shared the same telephone line and anyone could listen in on others conversations. Doesn't seem at all private doesn't it. To me, social media seems similar to the old fashioned party line. No matter what one says, many can read it and take it however they will. I refuse to be on Facebook. I've found Instagram to be pretty challenging. Either way, there, in my opinion, seems to be "bait" in either to get a person embroiled in some controversy. Maybe all it takes is a very strong desire to share one's opinion. That's a desire I've had to overcome at times. graveldochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07735646900935591880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-74703455773931898072020-06-23T06:46:31.587-05:002020-06-23T06:46:31.587-05:00@graveldoc - Yes, the people of Emporia stand to t...@graveldoc - Yes, the people of Emporia stand to take a hit if what I read about folks not going to the DK200 come true. I have seen private residents post that they no longer will house racers, racers saying they will not come again, and another private business owner say that their business will still support the event and take in any displaced riders who had arrangements with residents who have now backed out of supporting riders. <br /><br />So, just from that, you can see that the town is in an uproar over this. <br /><br />Like I've oft told my children- "Your decisions in Life will not only affect you and your consequences, but many others who you never intended to affect. Both in good and bad ways. Be very careful about how you proceed". <br /><br />All this over one, ill-informed action to post on social media.......Guitar Tedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10960580677548417562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-37303435829785431432020-06-23T06:08:20.478-05:002020-06-23T06:08:20.478-05:00It is truly a sad time on many fronts. I feel for...It is truly a sad time on many fronts. I feel for the people of Emporia, Kansas. I understand they have benefited greatly by DK 200; however, due to the virus, the event could not happen in the town, anyway. As I read through your post today, I am reminded of the saying "With great power comes great responsibility" (Uncle Ben to Spider Man). Also, the times seem ripe for the emergence of another great gravel event though maybe those events which already exist may absorb those who can not or will not participate in DK 200 but will attend those events. I'm certain those roads through the Flint Hills still exist and, since they are not all private, are still open to public use. Perhaps with a name change to one more socially palatable, would be in order, too. graveldochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07735646900935591880noreply@blogger.com