| Image courtesy of Des Moines Street Collective |
The latest episode of the "Guitar Ted Podcast" has elicited possibly the strongest and the most commentary we have ever received after an episode. Some of the comments are the positive reinforcement types which one might expect fans of the podcast to return to us. However; a few have been centered around this issue which pervades cycling today. The question concerning eBikes and what is an eBike and what is not an eBike.
The image here from the Des Moines Street Collective's social media earlier in this year is typical of the messaging which is being portrayed by much of the cycling advocacy and some brands as well. This is guidance for governments - both state and city - to help them formulate laws and ordinances. It is also there as a purported educational tool for cyclists, although I would offer that those who need to hear this message will never do so because they do not care to listen.
That's a whole 'nuther nut to crack and discuss.
What I feel is missing here is really more about a question I do not see being asked and an answer would go a long way, I think, in helping anyone make sense of this madness. The question? "What is cycling, and what is not cycling?
In a sense, that is what the poster above is trying to answer. E-bike? Cycling. E-Moto? Not cycling. Pretty straightforward.....or is it?
I would focus on the rider, not the machine. Cycling involves participation on the rider's part. In other words, cycling is pedaling. If you do not have to pedal, it is not cycling and is something else. What you call "the something else" - moto, moped, just being a passenger - That's up to you, and frankly, I do not care what you call it. It is NOT cycling. That is what is important here.
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| This shouldn't be vague, because e-scooters are not cycling. |
As a cyclist I can see the difference when I am out riding. I do not need to see what the machine is, I just have to observe what the rider is doing, or not doing. Now, you may say, "What about a normal bicycle and coasting? Fair question.
As I said, as a cyclist, I can see when a bicycle should be pedaled. Obviously up a hill is one such instance. But it also doesn't take a genius observer to see when an object is coasting further than it should be on flatter terrain. Speed is also a factor in this. A little training for officials - who have to make judgement calls on other vehicles already - shouldn't be all that difficult to communicate. To my mind, "cycling action" needs to occur or the device is not a bicycle.
So now all the so-called "pedal assist" bikes would be okay. Those must be pedaled to move the vehicle and its rider down a trail. There is pedaling going on. Scooters, e-motos, throttle equipped bikes? No-go. These are what would be - essentially - banned from the privileges actual cyclists enjoy. Those vehicles should require licenses and insurance. And while we're at it, so should side-by-sides and ATV's..... But that is another issue.
But the point is, enough with the three-class nonsense, enough with trying to decipher one machine from another. If the device does not REQUIRE pedaling to move, it is not a bicycle or a tricycle.
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I am in the camp of Human Power is a bicycle, anything with a motor/engine is a eMoto. It is all about the propulsion source, e-assist is still eMoto. Motorized cycles are just that, they have a motor on them. This clever "assist" talk is disingenuous and is lazy. Sorry, on single track e-anything should not be allowed. Bike paths, bike lanes, they are fine that is a means of movement away from cars.
ReplyDeleteWith that said, I have seen 5 eMotos constantly in the bike racks at work, where there use to be me and another guy commuting. eMotos are good for removing another car from the road, but at what cost? i am not one for legislation and would prefer a social solution to this vs a law or a regulation.
Someone recently told me about ghost pedaling. The bike moves forward with any spinning even though zero pressure is being applied to the pedals.
ReplyDeleteThe European standards for ebikes are so much better than the US standards: max of 250w, assist ends at 15.5 mph, and pedal-assist only. Any vehicle outside of those standards, including throttled vehicles, is classified as a motor vehicle.
"An officer sees you just sitting, standing, or otherwise being moved without pedaling? Ticket. Citation. Maybe even confiscation."
ReplyDeleteWhat if I'm coasting on my regular bike? Or an MTB that has a big downtube and BB area? Then they get to hassle me and I have to play nice while they get all huffy (pun intended) about what I'm riding. Granted, I'm still in your corner, Ted!
It may have been on a previous episode of your podcast, I have heard of a cheap hub motor pedal assist bike where the rider figured out they could just ratchet the crank past the sensor to move fast with near zero effort.
ReplyDeleteWashington State law allows licensed side-by-sides to be used on roads with speed limits 35mph and lower.
ReplyDeleteWhere I live we have two communities separated by a river. The only two bridges are state highways with a 40 and 50mph limit.
Some of the SBS community thinks it’s OK to use the bridges because there is no other way to cross. The law makes no such exception