tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post1305589238427878950..comments2024-03-28T08:40:23.164-05:00Comments on Guitar Ted Productions: Maybe It Should Be Called "All Road"Guitar Tedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10960580677548417562noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-3651793370524000422013-08-03T11:56:50.638-05:002013-08-03T11:56:50.638-05:00Right on, GT. This is why I bought the Vaya back i...Right on, GT. This is why I bought the Vaya back in April. Since then I've commuted with panniers, rode smooth roads, rode rough roads, rode fire roads, double track, single tracks… it's handled all of this like a champ. My only complaint is it is seriously overbuilt… like built to take a 300 lb. man across a mountain range on bumpy gravel with 100lbs of gear strapped to the bike. I clock in at 135lbs, and rarely carry gear. <br /><br />I want the same geometry, features, but with significantly lighter steel for an all-arounder.bwchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01200249430251730014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-44502319609874756892013-08-02T15:32:44.194-05:002013-08-02T15:32:44.194-05:00I disagree that "manufacturers have it all wr...I disagree that "manufacturers have it all wrong when it comes to what needs are and how the brands meet, (or do not meet), them". If this were the case, they wouldn't be making so much money as they currently are. In addition, they seem to be picking up on some of the emerging niches (e.g. gravel racing), and coming out with bikes that have disc brakes, and that will take wider tires (though 28c is far from fat). I really like how the Tamland looks, and the idea behind it, but I think the lower-priced version should have an 11-32 cassette if it truly aspires to be a 'do everything' and 'all roads' bike, rather than just a pure gravel racer. PRBChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03796559278151302918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-56187315537468334982013-07-31T09:35:34.494-05:002013-07-31T09:35:34.494-05:00Eric Coury of Castle frames has building what he h...Eric Coury of Castle frames has building what he has called 'All-Road' road/dirt frames for years. You should look him up. He's been riding and building them for quite a while. He just doesn't do the blog thing so much so has been off the radar. The idea that this gravelness is new is kinda funny. Folks in MT have been doing for decades and Sam Braxton was building them in the 70s/80s. What was old is new again eh?!?!'actual moutntain' bikerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02814236784632202988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-2771836302245579212013-07-30T23:09:38.049-05:002013-07-30T23:09:38.049-05:00Thanks @Irishtsunami. My drop bar stable includes:...Thanks @Irishtsunami. My drop bar stable includes:<br />1) Singular Osprey -- their 'road' frame, but is one able to fit 32c tires. Mine is set up with a 32c Schwalbe Racing Ralph on the front (a tubular) and a 32c Grand Bois Cypres Extra Leger (clincher) on the rear. It's best on gravel that's not too chunky, but in the right conditions, it's my fastest bike...<br />2) Singular Kite -- reviewed on Gravel Grinder News recently. It's the bike I ride most. A great frame with an amazing ride quality.<br />3) Singular Gryphon -- my singlespeed. Set up currently with a 29x2.2 Kenda Kommando on the front and a Nanoraptor on the rear, it's a very versatile ride. I often choose the Gryphon for rides that combine singletrack and gravel, and it's also a fantastic long-haul weapon (though I typically set it up with gears for rides like TransIowa).<br /><br />I also have a Ti Salsa Fargo... or well, it's a prototype of the G2 Ti Salsa Fargo. It's set up for singletrack rippin' with an 80mm travel Rock Shox Reba and full-knobby tires. It can be set up to rock on gravel, but given my current stable of Singular bikes, I really don't need it for gravel. Sadly, I don't ride this bike nearly enough.<br /><br />Cheers,<br />MGMGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00377768960221628840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-33636517611191045122013-07-30T08:31:17.324-05:002013-07-30T08:31:17.324-05:00Hear hear. I have a steel Waterford with relaxed g...Hear hear. I have a steel Waterford with relaxed geometry, an 80mm BB drop, canti brakes, and 32mm Vittoria Randonneur Hyper tires. It's a blast.<br /><br />As far as naming this category of bikes, I propose "ex-road" or "x-road".Denny Yunkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14563107589880106827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-61913443103981906392013-07-30T08:07:00.052-05:002013-07-30T08:07:00.052-05:00MG, you are my hero. What are your three rides and...MG, you are my hero. What are your three rides and what conditions do you have each set up for?Irishtsunamihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09370725131051466052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-91978832825116838052013-07-29T18:33:01.952-05:002013-07-29T18:33:01.952-05:00I think "all rounder" is a fair labelI think "all rounder" is a fair labelyoucancallmeAlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578252140097961816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-25062134924657802822013-07-29T18:30:52.828-05:002013-07-29T18:30:52.828-05:00I MEANT the defining of the problem. Of course dif...I MEANT the defining of the problem. Of course different folks will have different solutions to the same problem.youcancallmeAlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578252140097961816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-47605318669900645232013-07-29T17:37:51.641-05:002013-07-29T17:37:51.641-05:00"All Road" was a big push by Specialized..."All Road" was a big push by Specialized a decade ago too, with that exact name, with their Tricross line. Note the low BB and long chainstays. Andy Jacques-Maynes was onto something then, just not idea for cx racing. <br /><br />http://www.bikeshophawaii.com/sbc_Tricross.html<br /><br />Calfee has adventure bike, I like that term too since it doesn't imply road and pavement.Cyclocross Magazinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14851854556553417838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-66318556326861840452013-07-29T17:14:09.804-05:002013-07-29T17:14:09.804-05:00I have three bikes I rotate among for gravel ridin...I have three bikes I rotate among for gravel riding, and each is distinctly different. That suggests to me there's no one 'perfect' solution for gravel grinding. But that said, I do think a number of the bikes being developed and sold for gravel use are more practical, comfortable and versatile than 'typical' road bikes available today. <br /><br />Would more people be drawn to the category if it was called something sexier, like 'all road'? Perhaps, but some riders, regardless of what is best for them, want to look exactly like their Tour heros... Even if it kills their back and limits the roads they can ride.MGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00377768960221628840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-4011506756636841462013-07-29T16:35:16.356-05:002013-07-29T16:35:16.356-05:00@Tony dadson: He's been saying that the manufa...@Tony dadson: He's been saying that the manufacturers have it all wrong when it comes to what needs are and how the brands meet, (or do not meet), them. <br /><br />His solutions are similar, but are mostly based on older standards and ways of thinking. (One inch head tubes, as an example, or threaded steer tubes and quill stems.) <br /><br />So while I appreciate Mr. Petersen's overall philosophy, I do not necessarily agree with his answers to the problems riders have to deal with. Guitar Tedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10960580677548417562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-73898924528753168412013-07-29T15:26:13.931-05:002013-07-29T15:26:13.931-05:00Apologies to Salsa, but why not "Adventure Bi...Apologies to Salsa, but why not "Adventure Bike?"<br /><br />Everyone loves an adventure, right?Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12295093356543677366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-16530319684008026142013-07-29T14:59:59.764-05:002013-07-29T14:59:59.764-05:00hasn't Grant Petersen been saying basically th...hasn't Grant Petersen been saying basically the same thing these past 25 years?youcancallmeAlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578252140097961816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-52006522687486501002013-07-29T11:05:58.382-05:002013-07-29T11:05:58.382-05:00Right on, and I totally agree! I've held on t...Right on, and I totally agree! I've held on to just having my LHT for the past five years for a bunch of reasons, but one of the main is because I didn't want to deal with the compromises of a "specific" rig. I've come the closest to adding a Fargo as a second rig, but it got redundant with the LHT.<br /><br />Like you, my bones just don't deal with racing bikes, and I'm too cheap to waste money.<br /><br />Great post and I agree.. And know my next bike will be a "gravel grinder" rig, likely next spring and likely a Warbird.Benhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00031247407797525883noreply@blogger.com