tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post4673889784572527806..comments2024-03-27T15:04:18.521-05:00Comments on Guitar Ted Productions: Time For A Concept Bike! Part IIIGuitar Tedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10960580677548417562noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-67207387052212064162010-12-01T11:47:00.766-05:002010-12-01T11:47:00.766-05:00I suspect the Casseroll will be pretty generous in...I suspect the Casseroll will be pretty generous in the clearance department, based on history, but yeah, it won't run the 46s I have on my Vaya right now, I doubt.<br /><br />The Vaya would be a strong contender on many levels, but it's got the wrong brakes for you, and it's not SS-able, so it' falls down on two important fronts, for the purposes of this project. But in just about every other respect, it's perfect.MGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00377768960221628840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-15561275395633143832010-12-01T02:23:26.423-05:002010-12-01T02:23:26.423-05:00Don't know if a Steelwool Tweed would fit the ...Don't know if a Steelwool Tweed would fit the bill but you get a lot of build options with it. I've got one set up as my touring bike and it's been great. Not the lightest but you could keep it reasonable with the right components. Seat angle is probably too steep to make it a contender but I think it's worth a look.<br />http://www.steelwoolbicycles.ca/bikes/tweed.htmlretroscoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17313703130341144784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-25961028079947584712010-12-01T00:50:57.312-05:002010-12-01T00:50:57.312-05:00I think Fork Rake might be the key for a nice ride...I think Fork Rake might be the key for a nice ride on gravel.<br /><br /> Interesting article:<br />http://davesbikeblog.blogspot.com/2007/05/trail-fork-rake-and-little-bit-of.htmlBicycleDreamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14698605709126623680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-11743466045592098312010-11-30T17:42:13.905-05:002010-11-30T17:42:13.905-05:00@Jim Brown: Too touring specific. Too heavy from a...@Jim Brown: Too touring specific. Too heavy from a tubing aspect. It's made to carry loads, this bike will not. <br /><br />@Ben: Well, the Pofahl I have has a 71.5-72 degree seat tube angle, (depends on where in the shop I measure it), and I find that bike to be completely fine as to standing climbing and comfort. It also has a minimum chainstay length of just over 18", so plenty of room for the brake idea down there with slightly shorter chain stays. <br /><br />@d.p. @ Erik: Not bad. I actually considered the Casseroll with a Plus Five head set race from Chris King. Trouble with that idea is it raises the BB. The drop out idea is interesting, but the frame + 200 bucks starts to get pretty close to a custom and I wouldn't have any warranty/recourse if it didn't pan out.Guitar Tedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10960580677548417562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-41478464528951737952010-11-30T15:50:55.418-05:002010-11-30T15:50:55.418-05:00Try this on for size: Go get one of them fancy sc...Try this on for size: Go get one of them fancy schmancy new Cassies, have your local frame melter of choice cut out the rear dropouts and braze in some new plate dropouts with the axle moved back about 12mm and up a couple (I did the math, but now I forgot the exact numbers..) You'll drop both HA and SA by exactly .5 degree (to 72.5 and 73, respectively), and drop the BB by 5mm to put it right at 80mm. CS length goes to 43.5. Add paint to match. Sweet, no? You could prolly get this done for under $200, all done up nice and neat. Nice light tubeset, checks all the other boxes too.Erikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14022640742393712060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-10529718992518580152010-11-30T14:07:45.372-05:002010-11-30T14:07:45.372-05:00Catsroll - shim under the fork crown race. BAM!Catsroll - shim under the fork crown race. BAM!d.p.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07000183055150562919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-64429152327744152972010-11-30T11:46:49.283-05:002010-11-30T11:46:49.283-05:00I do disagree with you on the seat tube angle. I ...I do disagree with you on the seat tube angle. I like the 72 on my Fargo when seated, but it gives a rear weight bias that I don't like when standing. I see this bike as a mix of a more stable than CX/road bike with big tire clearance. To me that means a lower bb, slacker hta, and a higher rake fork. I would have a 73 deg set tube on mine though. I wonder whether the Paul brake will be the limiting factor for tire clearance, rather than the frame itself. <br /><br />Potts steel, that is all.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16141742112128395466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-32094973322862525482010-11-30T11:38:15.136-05:002010-11-30T11:38:15.136-05:00What about the Surly LHT? Fatter tires, more rela...What about the Surly LHT? Fatter tires, more relaxed geometry.Jim Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10273478387155130974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-71188348925166334772010-11-30T10:45:13.347-05:002010-11-30T10:45:13.347-05:00@grannygear: I bet it would ride "OK" as...@grannygear: I bet it would ride "OK" as well. That's just it though- "OK" isn't cutting it. I have several "just OK" gravel bikes already. This is a pursuit to refine upwards to something more purpose built for the task. <br /><br />Although, I admit that the build you suggest would be fantastic for 75% of gravel riding around here.Guitar Tedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10960580677548417562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-8531739080743871332010-11-30T10:15:50.827-05:002010-11-30T10:15:50.827-05:00Surly Cross Check, Robins Egg Blue with polished h...Surly Cross Check, Robins Egg Blue with polished hubs and cranks like WI or Phil W.. Ooooooo...a light frame is overrated. The money saved over custom would pay for niiiiice parts.<br /><br />Bet it rides OK, even with the hvy tubing. Get a Ti seatpost and ride happy.grannygearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06896238587895388993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-12859420505209675502010-11-30T08:35:41.294-05:002010-11-30T08:35:41.294-05:00@Captain Bob: Yeah.....(sigh), still it could do f...@Captain Bob: Yeah.....(sigh), still it could do for a pavement bike, but when do I ride pavement? Oh well.<br /><br />@Wally Killburg: What?! You don't want any more T.I.V7 posts? ;>) (Ha! Just kidding, and thank you!)Guitar Tedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10960580677548417562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-23211935417782683372010-11-30T08:12:32.190-05:002010-11-30T08:12:32.190-05:00Don't take this the wrong way but this is one ...Don't take this the wrong way but this is one of the more interesting topics you've dived into in some time. <br /><br />I'm waiting, and working through my own geo exercises in my mind, to see what you come up with in terms of geometry for this bike.Wallyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10702260247824786727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-17420504324313583032010-11-30T08:03:25.903-05:002010-11-30T08:03:25.903-05:00I'm with ya there Ted. The Casseroll was sooo...I'm with ya there Ted. The Casseroll was soooo close for me. THat 73 dgree ha for my size and tire clearance was the deciding factor for me. Such a pretty bike though.Captain Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00056590636681164934noreply@blogger.com