tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post7691231253672624042..comments2024-03-29T08:27:42.764-05:00Comments on Guitar Ted Productions: "Who Was First?" Is Not What A Hall of Fame Is AboutGuitar Tedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10960580677548417562noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-66894738595221799992022-01-19T09:08:31.639-05:002022-01-19T09:08:31.639-05:00@N.Y. Roll - Well, that is the salient question he...@N.Y. Roll - Well, that is the salient question here, isn't it? When does the "history" start? I think the GCHoF folks are keen on making it known that they are interested in the "how" and "why" the gravel scene got so big and where did that history start?<br /><br />That's my point- NOT everything that happened on gravel is integral to where the Industry/Recreational/Sporting aspects of "gravel" as a category is at now. The German, (and any early bicycle-like attempts at riding wheels) were- by default- on unpaved roads. So- does that make that development integral to the "Gravel Scene" or is it really just "How The Bicycle Developed" in terms of history? <br /><br />I would argue that it is the latter which is far more impactful. It obvious that bicycles had to come from somewhere, Without the bicycle, there would be no "Gravel Scene" as it stands today. Obviously when bicycles were developed, there were essentially no paved roads. (There were some, but those were rare) That is an assumption that I think any bicycle "HoF" makes. But back to the earlier bicycle days- That there weren't paved roads then does not mean that any early cycling activities were a genesis for the "Gravel Scene" today. We could have abandoned gravel/dirt roads as cyclists altogether by now- BUT.....<br /><br />We didn't. Why not? Now- answer that, and the other questions that come along with that, and you're a LOT closer to what the GCHoF is about. Guitar Tedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10960580677548417562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-21025892839676804552022-01-19T08:26:43.858-05:002022-01-19T08:26:43.858-05:00Serious take on any HoF. I think any HoF should d...Serious take on any HoF. I think any HoF should document history as unbiased it can be done. But more importantly acknowledge those who contributed to the growth of the sport. It should not be a marketing gimmick (not saying this is). The real question I have is when does the history of gravel start? Because honestly it is the OG bike riding format, so do we start in Germany with the draisine? That is not my call, but as a historian, that is a good starting place. But I would also encourage the GCHoF to go tour the glass museum in Corning NY to see a friendly education museum. Down the road from there is Stans tubeless, so it would be worth wild to go. NY Rollhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09894292869281781075noreply@blogger.com