tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post9051516354402250306..comments2024-03-28T08:40:23.164-05:00Comments on Guitar Ted Productions: Redshift Sports Kitchen Sink HandlebarGuitar Tedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10960580677548417562noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-34601681938115608332021-03-20T08:11:44.465-05:002021-03-20T08:11:44.465-05:00@BluesDawg - After much thought and consideration ...@BluesDawg - After much thought and consideration regarding your comments: First, I did say in my piece above that there may be some situations where you are maxed out and the 20mm rise may make a difference then, but in addition to that, I would say that those situations are probably very rare.<br /><br />Secondly, if you have a bike with more than 2 1/2" of spacers, AND a riser stem, AND still need more? Perhaps the problem isn't the components of the cockpit that are at issue, but rather it is that you have the wrong bicycle. <br /><br />This is a factor of special needs, oftentimes, (as you allude to with your situation) and the traditional bicycle industry does not accommodate for those types of situations. Many times ideas put forth by the first, second, and third tier brands are bound by tradition, potential sales figures, and other preconceived notions about "what will sell". In those cases where physical limitations or personal preferences don't fit the template laid forth by the traditional bicycle industry, we often see solutions applied which are sometimes a bit odd at best, and downright dangerous at worst. <br /><br />In my opinion, when there are such situations where 3" of spacers are being used and then we see riser stems on top of that, etc... This calls out for a customized solution in my opinion. That could be an entire bicycle, or a component like a custom stem. Yes- It is far more expensive, but I'd rather "have shoes that fit" than make do with imperfect solutions applied that may not be safe or 100% effective. If that means "having special shoes made", then that is a "best solution". <br /><br />So, I'm not saying buying a Kitchen Sink Handlebar to eek out the last 20mm of rise on an already compromised steer tube/stem set up cannot be done, but I am saying that is probably silly when there likely is a better way, and probably a safer way, to do it. Guitar Tedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10960580677548417562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-67488506447013091982021-03-17T17:35:00.910-05:002021-03-17T17:35:00.910-05:00@Rydn9ers - Great question! Well, obviously the bi...@Rydn9ers - Great question! Well, obviously the big difference is that Ergon grips do not fit drop bars due to the difference in diameter, but beyond that? <br /><br />Ergon has a very subtle difference in that their shapes are seemingly more 'human' compatible, if that makes any sense. These Redshift grips are not as fine-tuned in that way. That said, they aren't all that far off and they seem pretty decent. So overall- not much different until you get into the finer nuances. Guitar Tedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10960580677548417562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-32168433148263490032021-03-17T15:12:56.148-05:002021-03-17T15:12:56.148-05:00Are the cruise control grips similar to offerings ...Are the cruise control grips similar to offerings from Ergon or would you say they offer something significantly different? Rydn9ershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13365397419875871840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-82217136364666790192021-03-17T00:26:48.299-05:002021-03-17T00:26:48.299-05:00I’ve got a similar bar with some cheap aero bars c...I’ve got a similar bar with some cheap aero bars clipped on that serve as an accessory holder more than their designed function. I like having my computer further out front to see more easily and instead of feed bags attached to the stem and bar, I can attach them in front of the bar and to the aero bars. This gets them more forward and out of the way of my knees when climbing. This bar would check all those boxes with a cleaner look. Interested in the longer term use on the grips as well, will check out the other review. Keep up the good work.Salmonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04458946656116335536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12831567.post-44595225587386421582021-03-16T10:36:54.891-05:002021-03-16T10:36:54.891-05:00GT, glad to see you reviewing these bars. It sure ...GT, glad to see you reviewing these bars. It sure is odd they would have placed an embargo on info about them as they were widely announced several months ago on several major sites. Go figure. <br /><br />While I can understand that the 20mm rise on the Kitchen Sink bars would be just a fashion feature for most riders, even a negative for some who like a very low bar position, there are quite a few of us out here who can really benefit from 20mm extra handlebar height. <br /><br />Many individuals have limited neck or back mobility and need a higher bar than most. Some of that group may be riding bikes with low stack heights (e.g. Surly Cross-Check) and fork steerers that have already been cut too short for more spacers. They may already be running high angle stems and still not be high enough. Or maybe they want to use a Redshift Sports Shock Stop stem and the 100mm 30 degree option they offer doesn't work for them. I helped a woman find a solution for her All-City Space Horse we were building for her a few years back, and after too many spacers and a 30 degreee stem didn't quite get her to her comfort spot, a Specialized Hover gravel bar with 15mm rise made all the difference in the world for her. <br /><br />Myself, I have an arthritic neck that dictates a high bar position so I can see up the road and not just the ground a few feet ahead of my front tire on my MCD. I'm almost there, but I think this bar might make the height perfect for me and keep the flare similar to my Cowchippers.BluesDawghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08987016908626580094noreply@blogger.com