The new 13spd Red AXS XPLR |
SRAM debuts its newest group,Red AXS XPLR, today and with it have raised the bar for gravel oriented componentry. This post will start out with an overview of the group and afterward I will give my comments and opinions on what SRAM has offered today to gravel riders.
What It Is: This is a 1 X 13 speed group that features closer ratio jumps in the 10-46T cassette and is electronic using SRAM's longstanding AXS design, which uses the same batteries as all AXS components.
SRAM offers several chain ring options, a couple crank set options with many lengths available, and a new brake lever and caliper which are claiming some pretty impressive gains on older SRAM road based brake designs. In conjunction with the SRAM drive train offerings there is a new Zipp wheel set designed in conjunction with Goodyear tire, a new Zipp handle bar, and the Karoo GPS by Hammerhead is now integrated with SRAM AXS controls. This post will focus on the Red AXS XPLR only.
Full Mount: First let's look at the all new rear derailleur ($700.00USD). SRAM states that this 13 speed specific derailleur is not compatible with other SRAM AXS parts and is mated specifically to the new 13 speed cassette. By the way, there is one cassette choice, and because of these limitations SRAM can match the derailleur to the cassette and eliminate adjustment screws. More on the cassette in a minute.
SRAM have now allowed for this derailleur to be supported with replacement parts. Most of the derailleur components can now be swapped in case of damage in a crash including the cage and outer plate of the parallelogram. It is notable that only the jockey wheels and one other small part are compatible with any other current SRAM rear mech.
The new Full Mount, Transmission style rear derailleur is compatible only with UDH compatible frames or a UDH hangar. Older bikes probably will not be compatible with this newest group unless some aftermarket company comes up with a work-a-round. The SRAM "Magic Wheel" pulleys are one of the only Transmission features pulled over to Red AXS XPLR for the rear mech. That and UDH compatibility, and the battery seem to be the only common features here.
Brands supporting the new Red AXS Xplr at launch. |
The chart here shows current brands supporting this standard for gravel bikes. It is assumed that several others will be onboard in the coming months.
By the way, the new group does not support a front derailleur.
AXS XPLR 13 Speed Cassette:
The new cassette ($600.00USD) features closer ratios for better "gear ratio progression", as SRAM puts it. Again, there is but one choice in cassette. Ratio range can be changed by swapping to different chain rings.
Cassette cogs from 10T to 46 teeth are spaced a bit more closely, so you could say that the reason for the 13th cog is not to increase range, but to better accommodate riders so they won't have such big cadence jumps between gears. (Something Shimano has hung their hat on for years, and something racers have wanted as well.)
Jumps between gears are pretty evenly spaced out until you get to shifting into that low 46T cog. here are the cogs and their tooth counts: 10T, 11T, 12T, 13T, 15T, 17T, 19T, 21T, 24T, 28T, 32T, 38T, 46T.
The cassette mounts on the SRAM XDR freehub body only. It requires use of the special road specific flat top chain as well. It is not compatible with the Eagle flat top chains. ($89.99 - $99.00USD)
Crank & Chain Ring Options:
SRAM has several crank set options and chain ring options. Crank sets can be had with ($1,100.00USD) or without ($650.00USD) power meters and all use the DUB spindle, of course.
Chain rings ($150.00USD) come in 38T, 40T, 42T, 44T, or 46T sizes. Crank arms ($400.00USD for the set w/o chain ring) can be had in lengths including 160mm, 165mm, 167.5mm, 170mm, 172.5mm, and 175mm.
Brakes & Levers:
The brakes have been redesigned starting at the levers. ($675.00USD each side w/hoses and calipers. Rotors are $70.00USD each extra) Traditional master cylinder placement within a SRAM hydraulic lever has been more or less vertical. Now with the new Red AXS XPLR it is more horizontally placed which allows SRAM to move the lever pivot to a place where the rider has more leverage from the hoods position.
This cutaway shows SRAM's previous brake lever architecture (L) compared to the new Red AXS XPLR (R) |
In the shifting department all Red AXS XPLR levers come set up with extra buttons - one on each lever - that are pre-programmed to activate the rear derailleur. The right side gives you a higher gear while the left side gives you a lower gear. These "Bonus Buttons" are located in the upper hood area. They can easily be reassigned to other functions via SRAMS AXS app. One could use them for any ANT+ compatible device, such as a dropper post, GPS, etc.
SRAM estimates that the batteries will last up to 2 years at a riding rate of 15hrs/week. The batteries, as mentioned, are all the same as those the previously released SRAM electronic groups used. Of course, SRAM's Blips can be added to further customize the rider's experience.
Comments:
At some point it is bound to happen that the bicycle industry will grow and morph "standards" to something new. We went decades with a 135mm rear/100mm front spacing for MTB. Now it is Boost, Boost+, or DH standard. Add fat bikes in there, disc brake road, and well, you get the picture.
So I see UDH/"Direct Mount" type rear derailleurs as being that "next" evolutionary change. SRAM has led the charge here, but at some point Shimano will have to come alongside and make the world right in this regard. It is a better way to mount a rear mech, and we've had hangars now for how long? Okay, it isn't the length of time thing I am concerned about, "Direct Mount" is a structurally better idea that needs to replace an old, weaker standard. Kudos to SRAM for bringing this to gravel riders.
SRAM doesn't offer 2X for several reasons, but the thought that 1X is better than 2X is not one of those reasons. That said, at least SRAM used the opportunity to add an extra cog to tighten up ratio jumps instead of adding another 8 tooth gap to have a super-low gear rear cog. Yeah....yeah....I know. Certain folks will have YouTube vids and posts on social media decrying SRAM for not giving folks lower gears but more cogs and at more expensive prices.
Closer gaps between gears is something racers appreciate but also something the average rider can benefit from as well. I've often thought Shimano was on a better trajectory with their drive train designs in this regard. That SRAM has also now followed suit, to a degree, shows me that this is the way a bicycle drive train gear set up should be done. Closer gaps between gears is a better reason for more cogs than the "extending gear ratio range". The one benefits how the rider can perform. The other is pretty much just grandstanding and really isn't rider focused, as far as making the bike more integrated with the rider's performance attributes.
It seems all I've seen from SRAM in the last few years is more proprietary componentry. There is less compatibility between groups and no backward compatibility in some cases. SRAM seems more bent upon getting riders to buy into their eco-system which - in my opinion - locks the rider into SRAM parts with no options. This is ironic to me as that was the reason for the "Shimano Rebellion" that small companies engaged in back in the mid-1990's when we had several companies trying to make their own drive train components which were cross-compatible with each other, for the most part. Interestingly, SRAM was a part of that back in those days. Now one could accuse SRAM of being worse than Shimano ever was in this regard.
Just how this new stuff holds up to gravel abuse, how long it works well before needing replacement, and if it gains spec on new bikes is yet to be seen. Obviously it will be expensive and likely only on top-of-the-range bikes costing around the 10K mark. That's my guess, and if that is true, this won't affect most gravel riders now at all. But what about the future?
Is 13 speed going to overtake the market? Will all top-range drive train options be electronic only? What about Far East competition from companies like Ltwoo that sell complete 12 speed gravel group-sets for less money than the 13 speed Red AXS XPLR derailleur cost? These questions and more will continue to plague newer, top-end introductions to gravel componentry.
There is a growing consensus amongst many riders that this sort of electronic, high-end hardware is unnecessary and prohibitively expensive to buy and own. SRAM and Shimano are starting to see the effects of the competition that brings similar high-tech stuff and groups with less gears for a lot cheaper than this new SRAM AXS XPLR or the new Di2 GRX. Sales are reportedly soft at both companies. Maybe it is a sign?
The future in gravel componentry will definitely be dynamic and interesting to witness as time goes on.
This is super cool, but I can’t imagine spending nearly twice the money for Red XPLR than a GRX Di2 group... and the gap is even bigger to Shimano’s excellent GRX mechanical group. Red’s definitely not twice as good, regardless of how many gears it has. I suppose the value is in the eye of the beholder, but for me, I’ll stick to my GRX drivetrains.
ReplyDelete@MG - Yeah, I agree. Cool tech - WAY SPENDY! Yes - "Value is in the eye of the beholder", but in this instance I think SRAM is pushing the boundaries a bit too far.
ReplyDeleteThose prices are insane. And the bike industry wonders why things are in a slump? I can go buy a used KTM or Harley for the price of this group. When the great Greg Bagni was at Schwinn in Boulder he had a great take on the industry. Bike brands weren't competing against each other. They are competing against time and discretionary income. Things folks will do INSTEAD of riding. Wakeboarding, paddling, fly fishing, snow shoeing, skiing etc..............People will follow the path of least resistance with their time and money. A $700 derailleur is not it, just the glance as they walk into a shop of 5, 10, 15K bikes is enough to make many folks walk away due to the PERCIEVED cost of entry.
ReplyDelete@Tman - Your point about perceptions is well taken. The entire narrative for many brands is top-of-the-range parts and Pro level racing. Mid-tier groups and average recreationalists "don't sell", or so they say.
ReplyDeleteI tend to agree with your points, but the bicycle industry, and most media that covers it, focuses on the mostly unattainable attributes of the sport.
I'm sure the performance is fantastic and that SRAM will sell boat loads of them, especially to the "marginal gains" bros looking to upgrade. But it's not just the initial cash outlay that turns me off, rather the long term care and feeding: ~$100 chains (with tax)? No thanks. Everyone I know riding SRAM 12 speed gets less than 1000 miles on new, perfectly maintained chains, and I can't imagine these lasting any longer. And if you aren't on top of chain replacement, get ready to shell out big time for new cassettes and chainrings. I agree with Tman--"Go big or go home" might work for pros and industry sponsored athletes, but it sure feels like dark times ahead for the rest of us.
ReplyDelete@Owen - You said "... it sure feels like dark times ahead for the rest of us.", when referring to the high-end of componentry, prices, durability, etc.
ReplyDeleteThis is why I wrote in the closing of my article that these are dynamic times in the gravel component area. I think when we see such a radical shift (pardon the pun) towards proprietary and expensive that a corresponding reaction will come in behind that to fill the void left where SRAM, and to a lesser degree, Shimano, have gone.
Chinese companies like Ltwoo are just an example of this. MicroShift is as well. TRP has developed a completely open electronic protocol which could be adopted to run a lesser expensive group set.
I think we're not in all that 'dark' a time and that things will change in the near future. SRAM and Shimano cannot sustain double-digit sales losses much longer, so if the top end market won't save them, (hint: It won't), I think you'll see some different strategies coming from them as well.
@Guitar Ted. You are correct about the Industry. Just so we could relate to customers in the late 90s, a couple of us at the shop built up steel Moabs (high end spec tho) so Customers could relate to us at the shop. Around that time is when I took a Bianchi Project 700c MTB in trade. I vowed to ride the Mid level parts as an experiment. Stuck with that bike until well after I had built up my much nicer Karate Monkey. Just like any sport, the Industry folks think everyone should be on Pro/World Cup style equipment. Having jumped back into skiing a few years back I remembered this and laugh at so-so skiers struggling with high end style, uncomfortable race boots while I walk around in my out of fashion/but new rear entry boots
ReplyDeleteGT, I certainly hope you're right, but regarding "different strategies," I just wonder when and what the straw that breaks the camel's back will look like. All the marketing I see from Shimano and SRAM is targeting the top end, even if they're loosing money on it. I agree there are other companies stepping in to fill the gaps, some of which make solid, well-functioning products, and some of which are mixed. I think Shimano tried to consolidate the low-middle end with CUES, correct me of I'm wrong but it seems like most people's reaction was pretty flat. I've yet to ride CUES as it's a closed ecosystem, but as an industry person I'd be curious how you see it and if it will be Shimano's MO going forward?
ReplyDelete@Owen - I also have not ridden CUES, but the premise behind the group makes sense to me. I do not like that it won't work with other legacy Shimano parts, but I get why they did that also.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, IF Shimano does a CUES variant with a drop bar compatible group system (7,8,9,10,11 speed), maybe even cross compatible with flat bar CUES, it would be a monster success. My hope is that they eventually do just that. I suspect COVID and what that did to industry inventory levels has pushed that back, but I would be super-surprised if it never happened.
SRAM has pretty much abandoned inexpensive, less cogs, hybrid/mtb and drop bar groups for lesser quality versions of its 12spd (and now 13 speed) top-range gear hoping people will desire to work their way up their ecosystem ladder. They don't have a CUES-like alternative, and IF Shimano fleshes out the CUES range with drop bar stuff, I think SRAM will have to answer that.
Meanwhile Chinese groups have started to infiltrate the market and IF that supply-line can get its stuff together and start out-Shimano-ing Shimano they stand to take a big chunk out of the marketplace, especially aftermarket. But so far they have shown no proclivity for doing things at a higher level more consistently.
Again - It will be interesting to see it all unfold and how things settle out.
GT - Russ at Path Less Pedaled posted a video a day or two ago regarding using Microshift drop levers and some Cues parts to make a wide range setup. Is maybe similar to what you are looking for
ReplyDeleteThe nice thing about bicycles is that no one is forcing me into using this thing in my bike. There are no regulations says that I can't get to 460% gear range using my old friction-shifting 2x9 setup. Yes, it has wider gaps between gears but the rear mech doesn't cost nowhere near $700, cassette is a fraction of that $600, and chains are dirt cheap.
ReplyDelete@bostonbybike - Let's hope that all the choices remain to be available for the foreseeable future.
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