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The long known rumors were mostly proven to be true. There is a 32" Fargo. Maxxis did actually produce more tread patterns in 32". Other tires were introduced. (Teravail, Kenda)
But there were disappointments. No one was racing a 32"er at Sea Otter in the gravel event. There were small brands/builders showing 32"ers, but no real hints of which second tier, or main brands, which might be toying with the idea of producing a 32"er. At least no rumors are being spread openly. I'm sure some folks came away from Sea Otter with hints and perhaps news, sworn to secrecy.
Sun Tour openly showed its 32"er suspension fork. This would indicate we will see an entry level MTB bike, at least, with 32"er wheels. Ari Bikes, (Formerly known as Fezzari), showed an FS 32"er prototype with a prototype Fox 32"er fork. Probably to gauge interest, but this also could be a pointing to an OE order which would, in turn, point to a mid-tier MTB offering, at least.
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Comments: Salsa Cycles Fargo in 32 will come in a size small. This was a surprise as it is commonly held that a medium is about as small as one can reasonably get with 32" wheels. The geometry chart for the size small Fargo 32 shows this just may be correct, as the stack height on the small with 32" wheels is going to lead to very upright seated positions for small sized riders. Probably not ideal. So, besides potential toe overlap issues, I think size medium is the lower limit of sizing for 32" wheels.
Things seem to be moving along at blazing speed when it comes to 32"ers, but remember, 29 inch came into being right at the end of the Analog Age, and 29"er development broke the ceiling of bicycle design which 32" wheels do not have to hinder their development.
You can see this in the nearly instantaneous offering of several tires. We don't even have bikes available in mass quantities to put these tires on, not to mention rims, yet tire rolling resistance testing has already been done showing glowing results for 32"ers.
29"ers grew in a grassroots, organic way. Slowly, and yet sooilidly forming a base to help manufacturers see there was a buying public for the wheel size. The 32"er smacks of a more "manufactured" story, with lots of rave results from tests, but with barely any kind of organic feel to these results. There is a very harsh blowback in comments sections regarding 32"ers, but maybe this won;t matter in the end.
But maybe it will.
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My feeling is that once all the folks who want 32"ers have 32"ers, we will see a marked decline in interest. I do not believe 32"ers will diappear as quickly as they arrived, and perhaps something of a small, niche element of the size will hang on for years, like 27" wheels and tires have. But I firmly believe the industry will, in the end, winnow out one of the current wheel sizes.
My take is this will be the 32"ers. My belief is the market for the size is limited to taller folks while medium to smaller sized folk will be best served by 29"ers, despite all the recent testing results for 32"ers. The 32" diameter is just a bit too big for many things other than small to some medium sized folk. I think we'll be seeing this in the near future as well.
And 27.5", while diminished in popularity, will be great for youth and "smaller" small adults. So, I do not believe 27.5" is the size the industry will ax out of existence either. I could be wrong, but looking at what has come out of Sea Otter, and from my observations in the cycling world over a long period of time, I would say my vision of how the 32"er will go forward is closer to the mark than not.



The Sea Otter DH was won on a 32/29" mullet, FWIW...
ReplyDelete@MG - Thanks. I noted this as well. I wonder how technical/tough the Sea Otter DH course is? I've never really paid any attention to it. I have seen the old Dual Slalom course which was super-banked and twisty, but nothing crazy.
DeleteDrop bar Small sized fargo with a down ward stem is not ideal, but will correct issues with early models. I think bike companies will need to work with the fork maker to shorten some stack height issues. I see the chain stays getting longer, or the BB drop is less than the other models. Options exist, question is, what is the best compromise?
ReplyDeleteA quick look at the height distribution of Americans shows 76% of men and 11% of women stand 170 cm or taller and could fit a medium 32" bike. 28% of men and 1% of women stand 180 cm or taller and could fit a large. Statistics on the numbers of men and women in mountain biking vary but average somewhere around 70% male. Putting those together gives about 56% of the MTB market could fit a medium and 20% could fit a large. To me that looks like more than a niche market so 32" may have some staying power.
ReplyDelete@Stuart - Interesting way to look at this, thank you.
DeleteSo, if 56% of riders could fit a Medium and 20% a Large, does this mean all of those riders will buy a 32"er?
Of course not. But also - We do not know anything about who would buy one. No one does.
We also know of those 56% and 20% that 100% of them would fit a 29"er, whether we know how many folks will buy or not.
As a brand or as a component manufacturer, spending hundreds of thousands of dollars, where would you be willing to place your bets on sales?
And as I have said, historically the industry has shown us it doesn't want multiple wheel sizes available. So..... I'm sticking to my opinion on the matter here. I'm not convinced by this viewpoint you have shared.
I'm not totally convinced of my viewpoint either. I think it's a possibility which will depend mostly on whether 32" performance turns out to be significantly better than 29" in enough situations. I don't know.
ReplyDeleteAt 185 cm I'm a reasonably good candidate for 32". However I'm too old to reasonably consider buying another bike. :(
After all this hoopla and seeing a certain few of the prototype 32" wheel bikes out there an amusing thought crossed my mind the other day. I wonder, maybe at the next MADE bike expo whom will be the first to throw a 20" Brompton or BMX wheel on the back and design and try and to sell the public on an all new Penny Farthing. HA! But then again they'll probably wait until the new tech 36"ers come around.
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of wheel set sizes and Mullet setups, on my old 2012 Gen 2 Fargo which I acquired second hand several years ago, I began by running it with 29" Velocity Blunt 35 wheel set with 2.5 Surly Extraterrestrial tires. Then when your Fat Fargo experiment came along I purchased a set of 27.5" Blunt 35s which ultimately I ran with 2.8 Schwalbe Super Moto X's. I actually really liked both setups. They both work very well. So thinking about the characteristics of each setup, the roll over of the 29er and the quicker acceleration of the 27.5 and thinking about the old motocross motorcycles of the 1960s & '70s with their 21" front 18" rear wheels, I did my own experiment 29" front 27.5" rear with said tires. I think it was a success, it changed the trail some, added more stability without being sluggish and a bit more traction and footprint. Forgot to mention the non suspension corrected Surly Ogre fork installed a few years ago. Yeah, Mullet, think I'm going to leave it this way for quite a while....
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