Sheesh! You'd have thought yesterday was a news day from Interbike what with all the news items posted on Twenty Nine Inches and elsewhere on the net. The only reason I know it wasn't Interbike is that I got to sleep in my own bed last night as opposed to some cheap Las Vegas flop house! (Just kidding!)
I won't get into the particulars of each and every news item here, but I have some commentary on what went down yesterday:
Fox Forks For 29"ers: Yep! Hallelujah! The long awaited Fox Fork is going to finally be available for a 29"er. This thing has been wished for by more 29"er freaks than you can shake a stick at. Now let's see who will actually pony up the cash and get one. Not noted as being an inexpensive brand, we may see more "talkers than walkers". That said, Fox seems to have legions of dedicated fans, so I suspect it will be a hot item once it's available.
To be honest, I was more surprised at the RST offering for 29"ers. At a fair bit under $400.00 and offered with canti studs, this fork shouldn't be overlooked, but it will be. Too bad, it seems as though RST has really put some thought into the internals. If the fork actually works as advertised, this could be the sleeper deal of '08 on 29"er forks. I hope they also did a longer offset crown, but if not, it's still worth looking into.
Fatty 29"er Tire: Then there is the news that a heeee-yoooge 29"er tire is on it's way. A 2.6" monster that has a 2 ply casing, mondo tread, and will be aimed at the free ride/ all mountain/ DH crowd. (Huh? There is one?) ..........Anyway! This is something that has been wished for by several 29"er nutcases out there even though it won't fit any currently available frames! Oh well! At least you can say you could get one! That said, the bike for this tire is also in the works and it'll be crazy. I can't wait for the resulting sick air shots!
And Finally.......... The aforementioned Fox 29"er fork is going on a Trek bike. Yes......Trek! The thing is, Trek honches flatly deny they are going with a full 29"er platform. It seems the rumor is that they are expanding the "69er" lineup! Okay..........that is stupid! I don't believe it for a minute either.
Look, how many of those Travis Brown signature bikes have you seen posted on the web by proud owners?.....................crickets.................... Yeah, that's what I thought! So now I am to believe that Burke and Company is going to turn a blind eye to what is going on across the aisle at Fisher and walk foolishly into the White Elephant Room? I don't think so, Tim.
Look, if it's true, (and we'll know by this time next week) it'll be the most resounding thud in marketing since Ford rolled out the Edsel. Incredibly stupid, especially when you consider that arch rival Specialized is in the process of rolling out an entire line up of proper 29"ers including two full suspension bikes and a three bike line up of 29"er hard tails at $1000.00 or less.
No, I can see maybe one or two more of those abominations, (heh heh!) but not introducing 29"ers with Trek on the down tube is saying "no" to money. I can't believe Trek would be so naive.
Don't forget to check the link to Twenty Nine Inches for the particulars on today's rants! Scroll down, as there were at least four posts about stuff yesterday. And ride your bike, ya'all!
Tuesday, April 03, 2007
Breaking News Madness
Sheesh! You'd have thought yesterday was a news day from Interbike what with all the news items posted on Twenty Nine Inches and elsewhere on the net. The only reason I know it wasn't Interbike is that I got to sleep in my own bed last night as opposed to some cheap Las Vegas flop house! (Just kidding!)
I won't get into the particulars of each and every news item here, but I have some commentary on what went down yesterday:
Fox Forks For 29"ers: Yep! Hallelujah! The long awaited Fox Fork is going to finally be available for a 29"er. This thing has been wished for by more 29"er freaks than you can shake a stick at. Now let's see who will actually pony up the cash and get one. Not noted as being an inexpensive brand, we may see more "talkers than walkers". That said, Fox seems to have legions of dedicated fans, so I suspect it will be a hot item once it's available.
To be honest, I was more surprised at the RST offering for 29"ers. At a fair bit under $400.00 and offered with canti studs, this fork shouldn't be overlooked, but it will be. Too bad, it seems as though RST has really put some thought into the internals. If the fork actually works as advertised, this could be the sleeper deal of '08 on 29"er forks. I hope they also did a longer offset crown, but if not, it's still worth looking into.
Fatty 29"er Tire: Then there is the news that a heeee-yoooge 29"er tire is on it's way. A 2.6" monster that has a 2 ply casing, mondo tread, and will be aimed at the free ride/ all mountain/ DH crowd. (Huh? There is one?) ..........Anyway! This is something that has been wished for by several 29"er nutcases out there even though it won't fit any currently available frames! Oh well! At least you can say you could get one! That said, the bike for this tire is also in the works and it'll be crazy. I can't wait for the resulting sick air shots!
And Finally.......... The aforementioned Fox 29"er fork is going on a Trek bike. Yes......Trek! The thing is, Trek honches flatly deny they are going with a full 29"er platform. It seems the rumor is that they are expanding the "69er" lineup! Okay..........that is stupid! I don't believe it for a minute either.
Look, how many of those Travis Brown signature bikes have you seen posted on the web by proud owners?.....................crickets.................... Yeah, that's what I thought! So now I am to believe that Burke and Company is going to turn a blind eye to what is going on across the aisle at Fisher and walk foolishly into the White Elephant Room? I don't think so, Tim.
Look, if it's true, (and we'll know by this time next week) it'll be the most resounding thud in marketing since Ford rolled out the Edsel. Incredibly stupid, especially when you consider that arch rival Specialized is in the process of rolling out an entire line up of proper 29"ers including two full suspension bikes and a three bike line up of 29"er hard tails at $1000.00 or less.
No, I can see maybe one or two more of those abominations, (heh heh!) but not introducing 29"ers with Trek on the down tube is saying "no" to money. I can't believe Trek would be so naive.
Don't forget to check the link to Twenty Nine Inches for the particulars on today's rants! Scroll down, as there were at least four posts about stuff yesterday. And ride your bike, ya'all!
I won't get into the particulars of each and every news item here, but I have some commentary on what went down yesterday:
Fox Forks For 29"ers: Yep! Hallelujah! The long awaited Fox Fork is going to finally be available for a 29"er. This thing has been wished for by more 29"er freaks than you can shake a stick at. Now let's see who will actually pony up the cash and get one. Not noted as being an inexpensive brand, we may see more "talkers than walkers". That said, Fox seems to have legions of dedicated fans, so I suspect it will be a hot item once it's available.
To be honest, I was more surprised at the RST offering for 29"ers. At a fair bit under $400.00 and offered with canti studs, this fork shouldn't be overlooked, but it will be. Too bad, it seems as though RST has really put some thought into the internals. If the fork actually works as advertised, this could be the sleeper deal of '08 on 29"er forks. I hope they also did a longer offset crown, but if not, it's still worth looking into.
Fatty 29"er Tire: Then there is the news that a heeee-yoooge 29"er tire is on it's way. A 2.6" monster that has a 2 ply casing, mondo tread, and will be aimed at the free ride/ all mountain/ DH crowd. (Huh? There is one?) ..........Anyway! This is something that has been wished for by several 29"er nutcases out there even though it won't fit any currently available frames! Oh well! At least you can say you could get one! That said, the bike for this tire is also in the works and it'll be crazy. I can't wait for the resulting sick air shots!
And Finally.......... The aforementioned Fox 29"er fork is going on a Trek bike. Yes......Trek! The thing is, Trek honches flatly deny they are going with a full 29"er platform. It seems the rumor is that they are expanding the "69er" lineup! Okay..........that is stupid! I don't believe it for a minute either.
Look, how many of those Travis Brown signature bikes have you seen posted on the web by proud owners?.....................crickets.................... Yeah, that's what I thought! So now I am to believe that Burke and Company is going to turn a blind eye to what is going on across the aisle at Fisher and walk foolishly into the White Elephant Room? I don't think so, Tim.
Look, if it's true, (and we'll know by this time next week) it'll be the most resounding thud in marketing since Ford rolled out the Edsel. Incredibly stupid, especially when you consider that arch rival Specialized is in the process of rolling out an entire line up of proper 29"ers including two full suspension bikes and a three bike line up of 29"er hard tails at $1000.00 or less.
No, I can see maybe one or two more of those abominations, (heh heh!) but not introducing 29"ers with Trek on the down tube is saying "no" to money. I can't believe Trek would be so naive.
Don't forget to check the link to Twenty Nine Inches for the particulars on today's rants! Scroll down, as there were at least four posts about stuff yesterday. And ride your bike, ya'all!
Monday, April 02, 2007
Monday News And Views
Quachita Nets 13th For Mr. 24: Jeff Kerkove races to a 13th placing at Quachita where Jason Sager takes the win. Nice result for the first test of the year for Jeff. You can read more here.
Bontrager To Release Another New 29"er Wheelset: The Bontrager Wheelworks "Rhythm" wheelset is already out for 26"ers, but now it has become known that it will also make an appearance in 29"er form, possibly on the new Fisher HiFi 29"er FS bike. Go here for a pic of the wheels. This is probably the first of many news items from Trek/Fisher regarding '08 29"er parts and bike introductions.
Fox Racing Shox To Intro Product At Sea Otter: Looks as though a bit of new product slipped through the filter at the recently held MTB National #1 races this past weekend as a new XC fork was spotted on Adam Craig's rig. You can check out a tech report here. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see at least a proto type 29"er Fox shock at Sea Otter, as it is known that Fox has been working on one. My bets are on a full on production model to not only be shown, but be available on a complete bike. Should be interesting!
Guitar Ted "Lube-Off" Update: Look for the next installment this week. I am in re-application mode on a couple of the bikes here, so an update is in order.
Raleigh XXIX+G Update, Ergon Grip Update, and Handlebar Madness: These are some of the topics for the next few days. Stay tuned! This week will be a full week of posts, but next week I am taking off for California. I will be attending the Trek/Fisher Press camp on the introduction of their new '08 mtb line up. (Can you say 29"ers?) Then it's off to Monterey California to check out Sea Otter and scour the Laguna Seca Raceway for anything having to do with the big wheels. Posts here could be erratic, but I will be posting, so bear with me there! Another heads up later this week with possibly more details.
Bontrager To Release Another New 29"er Wheelset: The Bontrager Wheelworks "Rhythm" wheelset is already out for 26"ers, but now it has become known that it will also make an appearance in 29"er form, possibly on the new Fisher HiFi 29"er FS bike. Go here for a pic of the wheels. This is probably the first of many news items from Trek/Fisher regarding '08 29"er parts and bike introductions.
Fox Racing Shox To Intro Product At Sea Otter: Looks as though a bit of new product slipped through the filter at the recently held MTB National #1 races this past weekend as a new XC fork was spotted on Adam Craig's rig. You can check out a tech report here. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see at least a proto type 29"er Fox shock at Sea Otter, as it is known that Fox has been working on one. My bets are on a full on production model to not only be shown, but be available on a complete bike. Should be interesting!
Guitar Ted "Lube-Off" Update: Look for the next installment this week. I am in re-application mode on a couple of the bikes here, so an update is in order.
Raleigh XXIX+G Update, Ergon Grip Update, and Handlebar Madness: These are some of the topics for the next few days. Stay tuned! This week will be a full week of posts, but next week I am taking off for California. I will be attending the Trek/Fisher Press camp on the introduction of their new '08 mtb line up. (Can you say 29"ers?) Then it's off to Monterey California to check out Sea Otter and scour the Laguna Seca Raceway for anything having to do with the big wheels. Posts here could be erratic, but I will be posting, so bear with me there! Another heads up later this week with possibly more details.
Monday News And Views
Quachita Nets 13th For Mr. 24: Jeff Kerkove races to a 13th placing at Quachita where Jason Sager takes the win. Nice result for the first test of the year for Jeff. You can read more here.
Bontrager To Release Another New 29"er Wheelset: The Bontrager Wheelworks "Rhythm" wheelset is already out for 26"ers, but now it has become known that it will also make an appearance in 29"er form, possibly on the new Fisher HiFi 29"er FS bike. Go here for a pic of the wheels. This is probably the first of many news items from Trek/Fisher regarding '08 29"er parts and bike introductions.
Fox Racing Shox To Intro Product At Sea Otter: Looks as though a bit of new product slipped through the filter at the recently held MTB National #1 races this past weekend as a new XC fork was spotted on Adam Craig's rig. You can check out a tech report here. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see at least a proto type 29"er Fox shock at Sea Otter, as it is known that Fox has been working on one. My bets are on a full on production model to not only be shown, but be available on a complete bike. Should be interesting!
Guitar Ted "Lube-Off" Update: Look for the next installment this week. I am in re-application mode on a couple of the bikes here, so an update is in order.
Raleigh XXIX+G Update, Ergon Grip Update, and Handlebar Madness: These are some of the topics for the next few days. Stay tuned! This week will be a full week of posts, but next week I am taking off for California. I will be attending the Trek/Fisher Press camp on the introduction of their new '08 mtb line up. (Can you say 29"ers?) Then it's off to Monterey California to check out Sea Otter and scour the Laguna Seca Raceway for anything having to do with the big wheels. Posts here could be erratic, but I will be posting, so bear with me there! Another heads up later this week with possibly more details.
Bontrager To Release Another New 29"er Wheelset: The Bontrager Wheelworks "Rhythm" wheelset is already out for 26"ers, but now it has become known that it will also make an appearance in 29"er form, possibly on the new Fisher HiFi 29"er FS bike. Go here for a pic of the wheels. This is probably the first of many news items from Trek/Fisher regarding '08 29"er parts and bike introductions.
Fox Racing Shox To Intro Product At Sea Otter: Looks as though a bit of new product slipped through the filter at the recently held MTB National #1 races this past weekend as a new XC fork was spotted on Adam Craig's rig. You can check out a tech report here. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see at least a proto type 29"er Fox shock at Sea Otter, as it is known that Fox has been working on one. My bets are on a full on production model to not only be shown, but be available on a complete bike. Should be interesting!
Guitar Ted "Lube-Off" Update: Look for the next installment this week. I am in re-application mode on a couple of the bikes here, so an update is in order.
Raleigh XXIX+G Update, Ergon Grip Update, and Handlebar Madness: These are some of the topics for the next few days. Stay tuned! This week will be a full week of posts, but next week I am taking off for California. I will be attending the Trek/Fisher Press camp on the introduction of their new '08 mtb line up. (Can you say 29"ers?) Then it's off to Monterey California to check out Sea Otter and scour the Laguna Seca Raceway for anything having to do with the big wheels. Posts here could be erratic, but I will be posting, so bear with me there! Another heads up later this week with possibly more details.
Sunday, April 01, 2007
Raleigh XXIX+G: Fork Swap Yeilds Big Result!
I had been toying with a couple of ideas for the Raleigh XXIX+G for awhile now. I wasn't really very happy with two things. One: The sluggishness in slow speed technical manouvers due to the high trail figure generated by the slacker headtube angle and shorter offset of the Reba, and Two: The Titec H-Bar with trigger shifters wasn't working out the way I wanted it to. There was only one posistion that the brake levers and triggers would work at all on the bar and it was a compromised situation for me. I didn't get on with it.
So, I remembered that I had an On One Superlight steel fork sitting in a box. It has 47mm of offset, which coupled with the XXIX+G should get the handling more in the realm of what I like than so far to the stable side as it was. The original bar and stem were still sitting on my bench, so I figured I'd return the controls back to their original places as long as I was switching out forks. Then I also had some Ergon E1 grips that Mr. 24 passed on to me to try out, so they got lined up for installation too.
I got to work yesterday, since it was raining anyway, and made all the swaps. I don't know if any of you do any tweaking on your own rigs, but I sometimes get a funny feeling when I wrench on my bikes. Either I feel like "this is going to be awesome", or I have an unsettled feeling. The first feeling was what I sensed as I made the swaps last night. I just knew it was going to be a major improvement.
I was so excited that I went out for a test ride in the dark up and down the block. I made some tight turns arond some sidewalks and in the yard. Yes! The fork made a huge improvement in the handling of the Raleigh. The bike felt alive underneath me and I was really happy. The grips also made an impression that was good initially. I'll detail those in a separate post.
The Raleigh by no means is close to the Dorothy or Mamasita in the handling department, but it now appears as though it is much more to the center of the handling spectrum. I'll have to measure out the current head angle and trail figure later, but the way it feels tells me the trail figure has dropped quite a bit. I expect that for a suspension fork, the new Manitou Minute 29"er fork with the longer offset would be just swell on this bike. I would highly recommend either that fork or for a rigid set up, any one of the two Superlight On One forks in the 29"er flavor.
Not all is coming up roses with the new set up though. The original stem is about an inch too long. I need to get a new Salsa stem to get me right in the cockpit. Then with the increased offset comes an increase in wheel base. The measurement I took last night revealed an almost limo-like wheelbase of 44.5 inches! Oh well, at least the ride should be a bit more comfortable, since I'll be between the wheels more!
I'll post some pics later. Today, it's off to Grandma and Grandpa's house so my two kids can see their grandparents. Have a great weekend!
So, I remembered that I had an On One Superlight steel fork sitting in a box. It has 47mm of offset, which coupled with the XXIX+G should get the handling more in the realm of what I like than so far to the stable side as it was. The original bar and stem were still sitting on my bench, so I figured I'd return the controls back to their original places as long as I was switching out forks. Then I also had some Ergon E1 grips that Mr. 24 passed on to me to try out, so they got lined up for installation too.
I got to work yesterday, since it was raining anyway, and made all the swaps. I don't know if any of you do any tweaking on your own rigs, but I sometimes get a funny feeling when I wrench on my bikes. Either I feel like "this is going to be awesome", or I have an unsettled feeling. The first feeling was what I sensed as I made the swaps last night. I just knew it was going to be a major improvement.
I was so excited that I went out for a test ride in the dark up and down the block. I made some tight turns arond some sidewalks and in the yard. Yes! The fork made a huge improvement in the handling of the Raleigh. The bike felt alive underneath me and I was really happy. The grips also made an impression that was good initially. I'll detail those in a separate post.
The Raleigh by no means is close to the Dorothy or Mamasita in the handling department, but it now appears as though it is much more to the center of the handling spectrum. I'll have to measure out the current head angle and trail figure later, but the way it feels tells me the trail figure has dropped quite a bit. I expect that for a suspension fork, the new Manitou Minute 29"er fork with the longer offset would be just swell on this bike. I would highly recommend either that fork or for a rigid set up, any one of the two Superlight On One forks in the 29"er flavor.
Not all is coming up roses with the new set up though. The original stem is about an inch too long. I need to get a new Salsa stem to get me right in the cockpit. Then with the increased offset comes an increase in wheel base. The measurement I took last night revealed an almost limo-like wheelbase of 44.5 inches! Oh well, at least the ride should be a bit more comfortable, since I'll be between the wheels more!
I'll post some pics later. Today, it's off to Grandma and Grandpa's house so my two kids can see their grandparents. Have a great weekend!
Raleigh XXIX+G: Fork Swap Yeilds Big Result!
I had been toying with a couple of ideas for the Raleigh XXIX+G for awhile now. I wasn't really very happy with two things. One: The sluggishness in slow speed technical manouvers due to the high trail figure generated by the slacker headtube angle and shorter offset of the Reba, and Two: The Titec H-Bar with trigger shifters wasn't working out the way I wanted it to. There was only one posistion that the brake levers and triggers would work at all on the bar and it was a compromised situation for me. I didn't get on with it.
So, I remembered that I had an On One Superlight steel fork sitting in a box. It has 47mm of offset, which coupled with the XXIX+G should get the handling more in the realm of what I like than so far to the stable side as it was. The original bar and stem were still sitting on my bench, so I figured I'd return the controls back to their original places as long as I was switching out forks. Then I also had some Ergon E1 grips that Mr. 24 passed on to me to try out, so they got lined up for installation too.
I got to work yesterday, since it was raining anyway, and made all the swaps. I don't know if any of you do any tweaking on your own rigs, but I sometimes get a funny feeling when I wrench on my bikes. Either I feel like "this is going to be awesome", or I have an unsettled feeling. The first feeling was what I sensed as I made the swaps last night. I just knew it was going to be a major improvement.
I was so excited that I went out for a test ride in the dark up and down the block. I made some tight turns arond some sidewalks and in the yard. Yes! The fork made a huge improvement in the handling of the Raleigh. The bike felt alive underneath me and I was really happy. The grips also made an impression that was good initially. I'll detail those in a separate post.
The Raleigh by no means is close to the Dorothy or Mamasita in the handling department, but it now appears as though it is much more to the center of the handling spectrum. I'll have to measure out the current head angle and trail figure later, but the way it feels tells me the trail figure has dropped quite a bit. I expect that for a suspension fork, the new Manitou Minute 29"er fork with the longer offset would be just swell on this bike. I would highly recommend either that fork or for a rigid set up, any one of the two Superlight On One forks in the 29"er flavor.
Not all is coming up roses with the new set up though. The original stem is about an inch too long. I need to get a new Salsa stem to get me right in the cockpit. Then with the increased offset comes an increase in wheel base. The measurement I took last night revealed an almost limo-like wheelbase of 44.5 inches! Oh well, at least the ride should be a bit more comfortable, since I'll be between the wheels more!
I'll post some pics later. Today, it's off to Grandma and Grandpa's house so my two kids can see their grandparents. Have a great weekend!
So, I remembered that I had an On One Superlight steel fork sitting in a box. It has 47mm of offset, which coupled with the XXIX+G should get the handling more in the realm of what I like than so far to the stable side as it was. The original bar and stem were still sitting on my bench, so I figured I'd return the controls back to their original places as long as I was switching out forks. Then I also had some Ergon E1 grips that Mr. 24 passed on to me to try out, so they got lined up for installation too.
I got to work yesterday, since it was raining anyway, and made all the swaps. I don't know if any of you do any tweaking on your own rigs, but I sometimes get a funny feeling when I wrench on my bikes. Either I feel like "this is going to be awesome", or I have an unsettled feeling. The first feeling was what I sensed as I made the swaps last night. I just knew it was going to be a major improvement.
I was so excited that I went out for a test ride in the dark up and down the block. I made some tight turns arond some sidewalks and in the yard. Yes! The fork made a huge improvement in the handling of the Raleigh. The bike felt alive underneath me and I was really happy. The grips also made an impression that was good initially. I'll detail those in a separate post.
The Raleigh by no means is close to the Dorothy or Mamasita in the handling department, but it now appears as though it is much more to the center of the handling spectrum. I'll have to measure out the current head angle and trail figure later, but the way it feels tells me the trail figure has dropped quite a bit. I expect that for a suspension fork, the new Manitou Minute 29"er fork with the longer offset would be just swell on this bike. I would highly recommend either that fork or for a rigid set up, any one of the two Superlight On One forks in the 29"er flavor.
Not all is coming up roses with the new set up though. The original stem is about an inch too long. I need to get a new Salsa stem to get me right in the cockpit. Then with the increased offset comes an increase in wheel base. The measurement I took last night revealed an almost limo-like wheelbase of 44.5 inches! Oh well, at least the ride should be a bit more comfortable, since I'll be between the wheels more!
I'll post some pics later. Today, it's off to Grandma and Grandpa's house so my two kids can see their grandparents. Have a great weekend!
Saturday, March 31, 2007
Big Wheeled Ballyhoo and Trans Iowa Update
Just got back from a great meeting with the folks of Decorah last night. The Big Wheeled Ballyhoo is coming together well. Things are really looking exciting and I know it's going to be a great time for all.
In the next few days, Twenty Nine Inches will be releasing some new details on this event which is scheduled for June 23rd-24th. I'll also post info here as well.
I got the opportunity to check out some of the newer trails and they look really great. I know I must get up there to ride soon!
Trans Iowa will be releasing some more details on the pre race meeting and some other details of the event soon to. Stay tuned!
And now I would like to point out that the inspiration for the Big Wheeled Ballyhoo, The Meat Up, is on again for July 21st this year. Check out the announcement here! Thanks to G for being such a good sport about me stealing his idea!
In the next few days, Twenty Nine Inches will be releasing some new details on this event which is scheduled for June 23rd-24th. I'll also post info here as well.
I got the opportunity to check out some of the newer trails and they look really great. I know I must get up there to ride soon!
Trans Iowa will be releasing some more details on the pre race meeting and some other details of the event soon to. Stay tuned!
And now I would like to point out that the inspiration for the Big Wheeled Ballyhoo, The Meat Up, is on again for July 21st this year. Check out the announcement here! Thanks to G for being such a good sport about me stealing his idea!
Big Wheeled Ballyhoo and Trans Iowa Update
Just got back from a great meeting with the folks of Decorah last night. The Big Wheeled Ballyhoo is coming together well. Things are really looking exciting and I know it's going to be a great time for all.
In the next few days, Twenty Nine Inches will be releasing some new details on this event which is scheduled for June 23rd-24th. I'll also post info here as well.
I got the opportunity to check out some of the newer trails and they look really great. I know I must get up there to ride soon!
Trans Iowa will be releasing some more details on the pre race meeting and some other details of the event soon to. Stay tuned!
And now I would like to point out that the inspiration for the Big Wheeled Ballyhoo, The Meat Up, is on again for July 21st this year. Check out the announcement here! Thanks to G for being such a good sport about me stealing his idea!
In the next few days, Twenty Nine Inches will be releasing some new details on this event which is scheduled for June 23rd-24th. I'll also post info here as well.
I got the opportunity to check out some of the newer trails and they look really great. I know I must get up there to ride soon!
Trans Iowa will be releasing some more details on the pre race meeting and some other details of the event soon to. Stay tuned!
And now I would like to point out that the inspiration for the Big Wheeled Ballyhoo, The Meat Up, is on again for July 21st this year. Check out the announcement here! Thanks to G for being such a good sport about me stealing his idea!
Friday, March 30, 2007
Friday News and Views
Mamasita in the 'Hood: My friend Captain Bob got his Mamasita from a small first alotment of the bikes. (Shocks........pegs........Lucky!) Anyway, he's building up one sweet machine out of it. I can't wait for his first ride report. Having had the chance to ride a Mamasita preproduction sample last November, I would bet that he'll have a broad, unceasing smile! I'll be sure to pass along any reaction that I hear from him on that sweet, and for now extremely rare rig. Check out his half built rig here.
Gary Bar Is Ready! I have the Gary bar mounted and ready to go on a first ride, but my brake pads won't show up until later today. Perhaps I'll get a short ride in on Saturday to make any final tweaks. I've got some family obligations to attend to Sunday, so my time to ride will be somewhat minimal, but I'll do what I can! I'll say that they remind me a ton of the original WTB drops which were modified Cinelli bars in reality. Stay tuned! More to come on these bars!
Several Stories In "Top Secret Mode": One of the toughest things for me to do is to stay quiet about new bikes in developement or that are about to be released. I have three such things under wraps from three different bike companies/builders that I just can't wait to share.......but I have to! All I'll say now is that they will be eye openers for alot of folks! Stay tuned here and to Twenty Nine Inches because as soon as I can spill the beans, I will!
Speaking of "Secret Projects".... My own secret project bikes are both still in progress. #1 is in the line now for construction. If all goes well, I should see some results by Trans Iowa time, but that's not a guarantee. We'll see. Project #2 is nearly finished being brazed up. The report I got the other day indicated that it's going to be pretty cool, so I'm excited. Once the last couple of tubes and the braze ons are done, it'll be time for powdercoating. Color choices! Talk about something that drives you nuts! I think I have something in mind, but I'm going to wait until I have to choose before choosing! I am still mulling over some of the parts selection too. Since both are to be single speeders, I won't have much to have to choose! That's good. I already have wheels lined up, so no worries there, and brakes will be Avid BB-7's for sure. Brooks saddle on one of them, the other probably something more modern. One of them is getting a Gary or Midge bar for sure, maybe both of them. More fine details to come!
Well, that's about all for today's installment. If you're bored, or weather doesn't permit you to ride your bike, check out this rant on bicycle lubes for kicks. By the way, I'll be updating my lube comparo soon. See you out on the trails! Ride that two wheeled contraption! It's good!
Gary Bar Is Ready! I have the Gary bar mounted and ready to go on a first ride, but my brake pads won't show up until later today. Perhaps I'll get a short ride in on Saturday to make any final tweaks. I've got some family obligations to attend to Sunday, so my time to ride will be somewhat minimal, but I'll do what I can! I'll say that they remind me a ton of the original WTB drops which were modified Cinelli bars in reality. Stay tuned! More to come on these bars!
Several Stories In "Top Secret Mode": One of the toughest things for me to do is to stay quiet about new bikes in developement or that are about to be released. I have three such things under wraps from three different bike companies/builders that I just can't wait to share.......but I have to! All I'll say now is that they will be eye openers for alot of folks! Stay tuned here and to Twenty Nine Inches because as soon as I can spill the beans, I will!
Speaking of "Secret Projects".... My own secret project bikes are both still in progress. #1 is in the line now for construction. If all goes well, I should see some results by Trans Iowa time, but that's not a guarantee. We'll see. Project #2 is nearly finished being brazed up. The report I got the other day indicated that it's going to be pretty cool, so I'm excited. Once the last couple of tubes and the braze ons are done, it'll be time for powdercoating. Color choices! Talk about something that drives you nuts! I think I have something in mind, but I'm going to wait until I have to choose before choosing! I am still mulling over some of the parts selection too. Since both are to be single speeders, I won't have much to have to choose! That's good. I already have wheels lined up, so no worries there, and brakes will be Avid BB-7's for sure. Brooks saddle on one of them, the other probably something more modern. One of them is getting a Gary or Midge bar for sure, maybe both of them. More fine details to come!
Well, that's about all for today's installment. If you're bored, or weather doesn't permit you to ride your bike, check out this rant on bicycle lubes for kicks. By the way, I'll be updating my lube comparo soon. See you out on the trails! Ride that two wheeled contraption! It's good!
Friday News and Views
Mamasita in the 'Hood: My friend Captain Bob got his Mamasita from a small first alotment of the bikes. (Shocks........pegs........Lucky!) Anyway, he's building up one sweet machine out of it. I can't wait for his first ride report. Having had the chance to ride a Mamasita preproduction sample last November, I would bet that he'll have a broad, unceasing smile! I'll be sure to pass along any reaction that I hear from him on that sweet, and for now extremely rare rig. Check out his half built rig here.
Gary Bar Is Ready! I have the Gary bar mounted and ready to go on a first ride, but my brake pads won't show up until later today. Perhaps I'll get a short ride in on Saturday to make any final tweaks. I've got some family obligations to attend to Sunday, so my time to ride will be somewhat minimal, but I'll do what I can! I'll say that they remind me a ton of the original WTB drops which were modified Cinelli bars in reality. Stay tuned! More to come on these bars!
Several Stories In "Top Secret Mode": One of the toughest things for me to do is to stay quiet about new bikes in developement or that are about to be released. I have three such things under wraps from three different bike companies/builders that I just can't wait to share.......but I have to! All I'll say now is that they will be eye openers for alot of folks! Stay tuned here and to Twenty Nine Inches because as soon as I can spill the beans, I will!
Speaking of "Secret Projects".... My own secret project bikes are both still in progress. #1 is in the line now for construction. If all goes well, I should see some results by Trans Iowa time, but that's not a guarantee. We'll see. Project #2 is nearly finished being brazed up. The report I got the other day indicated that it's going to be pretty cool, so I'm excited. Once the last couple of tubes and the braze ons are done, it'll be time for powdercoating. Color choices! Talk about something that drives you nuts! I think I have something in mind, but I'm going to wait until I have to choose before choosing! I am still mulling over some of the parts selection too. Since both are to be single speeders, I won't have much to have to choose! That's good. I already have wheels lined up, so no worries there, and brakes will be Avid BB-7's for sure. Brooks saddle on one of them, the other probably something more modern. One of them is getting a Gary or Midge bar for sure, maybe both of them. More fine details to come!
Well, that's about all for today's installment. If you're bored, or weather doesn't permit you to ride your bike, check out this rant on bicycle lubes for kicks. By the way, I'll be updating my lube comparo soon. See you out on the trails! Ride that two wheeled contraption! It's good!
Gary Bar Is Ready! I have the Gary bar mounted and ready to go on a first ride, but my brake pads won't show up until later today. Perhaps I'll get a short ride in on Saturday to make any final tweaks. I've got some family obligations to attend to Sunday, so my time to ride will be somewhat minimal, but I'll do what I can! I'll say that they remind me a ton of the original WTB drops which were modified Cinelli bars in reality. Stay tuned! More to come on these bars!
Several Stories In "Top Secret Mode": One of the toughest things for me to do is to stay quiet about new bikes in developement or that are about to be released. I have three such things under wraps from three different bike companies/builders that I just can't wait to share.......but I have to! All I'll say now is that they will be eye openers for alot of folks! Stay tuned here and to Twenty Nine Inches because as soon as I can spill the beans, I will!
Speaking of "Secret Projects".... My own secret project bikes are both still in progress. #1 is in the line now for construction. If all goes well, I should see some results by Trans Iowa time, but that's not a guarantee. We'll see. Project #2 is nearly finished being brazed up. The report I got the other day indicated that it's going to be pretty cool, so I'm excited. Once the last couple of tubes and the braze ons are done, it'll be time for powdercoating. Color choices! Talk about something that drives you nuts! I think I have something in mind, but I'm going to wait until I have to choose before choosing! I am still mulling over some of the parts selection too. Since both are to be single speeders, I won't have much to have to choose! That's good. I already have wheels lined up, so no worries there, and brakes will be Avid BB-7's for sure. Brooks saddle on one of them, the other probably something more modern. One of them is getting a Gary or Midge bar for sure, maybe both of them. More fine details to come!
Well, that's about all for today's installment. If you're bored, or weather doesn't permit you to ride your bike, check out this rant on bicycle lubes for kicks. By the way, I'll be updating my lube comparo soon. See you out on the trails! Ride that two wheeled contraption! It's good!
Thursday, March 29, 2007
Origin 8 "Gary" Bar: Update
Here's some comparative numbers on the Gary bar vs. the Midge bar. I was able to remove the Midge and mount up the Gary bar on the Karate Monkey, but the switch wasn't made complete before I had a chance to scrutinize both bars side by side.
Weight: Midge bar = 250 grams
Gary bar = 320 grams
Width: (Note: measurement taken outside to outside at the widest point)
Midge bar = 58cm.
Gary bar = 58cm.
Drop: (Note: measurement taken center line of drop extension to centerline of flat upper section)
Midge = 102.5mm
Gary = 92.5mm
Flats Width: (the upper portion of the bar, either side of the stem clamp to where bar starts to curve to drop section)
Midge = 37cm.
Gary = 28cm
Drop extension length: ( The portion of the drop that is flat- from the hook to the tip)
Midge = 8.5cm.
Gary = 9.5cm.
The differences are subtle, but there. The most notable difference being the slope( or flare as some call it) of the Gary bars drop section which limits the width of the top section in comparison to the Midge. This also cants the brake levers more making them appear to be nearly horizontal from the saddle, which is nearly mustache bar territory. Some may not like that, but again: You are supposed to ride in the drops all the time on these bars. If you can't, they aren't high enough, most likely.
Obviously, weight weenies are going with the Midge bar, but at 320 grams, the Gary isn't a pig, especially when considering the fact that it's designed for the rigors of off roading and is half the price of a Midge bar. By the way, the makers mark on the Gary is from the Kalloy company, which makes some decent parts, albeit heavy, for lots of mountain bikes. I checked the Midge bar for it's makers mark. I found some numbers, but no branding. That's not to say anything other than I don't know who made the thing for On One. I do know it was On One's own engineering and design, so it's obviously worth riding off road, just judging from the reputation of their stuff at On One.
So, the riding of the Gary bar will commence soon, ( after my disc brake pads arrive!) and I'll let you know what I think of the subtle and not so subtle differences between the two bars. Stay tuned!
Weight: Midge bar = 250 grams
Gary bar = 320 grams
Width: (Note: measurement taken outside to outside at the widest point)
Midge bar = 58cm.
Gary bar = 58cm.
Drop: (Note: measurement taken center line of drop extension to centerline of flat upper section)
Midge = 102.5mm
Gary = 92.5mm
Flats Width: (the upper portion of the bar, either side of the stem clamp to where bar starts to curve to drop section)
Midge = 37cm.
Gary = 28cm
Drop extension length: ( The portion of the drop that is flat- from the hook to the tip)
Midge = 8.5cm.
Gary = 9.5cm.
The differences are subtle, but there. The most notable difference being the slope( or flare as some call it) of the Gary bars drop section which limits the width of the top section in comparison to the Midge. This also cants the brake levers more making them appear to be nearly horizontal from the saddle, which is nearly mustache bar territory. Some may not like that, but again: You are supposed to ride in the drops all the time on these bars. If you can't, they aren't high enough, most likely.
Obviously, weight weenies are going with the Midge bar, but at 320 grams, the Gary isn't a pig, especially when considering the fact that it's designed for the rigors of off roading and is half the price of a Midge bar. By the way, the makers mark on the Gary is from the Kalloy company, which makes some decent parts, albeit heavy, for lots of mountain bikes. I checked the Midge bar for it's makers mark. I found some numbers, but no branding. That's not to say anything other than I don't know who made the thing for On One. I do know it was On One's own engineering and design, so it's obviously worth riding off road, just judging from the reputation of their stuff at On One.
So, the riding of the Gary bar will commence soon, ( after my disc brake pads arrive!) and I'll let you know what I think of the subtle and not so subtle differences between the two bars. Stay tuned!
UPDATE: Brant of On One was kind enough to fill me in and tell me that a company called Premetec manufactures these Midge bars and also bars for the likes of WTB, Syncros, Bontrager, and frame tubing for Trek as well. So, as I suspected, it's a fine outfit that can be trusted and has vast experience in producing bars for off roading. Thanks to Brant and appologies for any inconveniences this may have caused!
Origin 8 "Gary" Bar: Update
Here's some comparative numbers on the Gary bar vs. the Midge bar. I was able to remove the Midge and mount up the Gary bar on the Karate Monkey, but the switch wasn't made complete before I had a chance to scrutinize both bars side by side.
Weight: Midge bar = 250 grams
Gary bar = 320 grams
Width: (Note: measurement taken outside to outside at the widest point)
Midge bar = 58cm.
Gary bar = 58cm.
Drop: (Note: measurement taken center line of drop extension to centerline of flat upper section)
Midge = 102.5mm
Gary = 92.5mm
Flats Width: (the upper portion of the bar, either side of the stem clamp to where bar starts to curve to drop section)
Midge = 37cm.
Gary = 28cm
Drop extension length: ( The portion of the drop that is flat- from the hook to the tip)
Midge = 8.5cm.
Gary = 9.5cm.
The differences are subtle, but there. The most notable difference being the slope( or flare as some call it) of the Gary bars drop section which limits the width of the top section in comparison to the Midge. This also cants the brake levers more making them appear to be nearly horizontal from the saddle, which is nearly mustache bar territory. Some may not like that, but again: You are supposed to ride in the drops all the time on these bars. If you can't, they aren't high enough, most likely.
Obviously, weight weenies are going with the Midge bar, but at 320 grams, the Gary isn't a pig, especially when considering the fact that it's designed for the rigors of off roading and is half the price of a Midge bar. By the way, the makers mark on the Gary is from the Kalloy company, which makes some decent parts, albeit heavy, for lots of mountain bikes. I checked the Midge bar for it's makers mark. I found some numbers, but no branding. That's not to say anything other than I don't know who made the thing for On One. I do know it was On One's own engineering and design, so it's obviously worth riding off road, just judging from the reputation of their stuff at On One.
So, the riding of the Gary bar will commence soon, ( after my disc brake pads arrive!) and I'll let you know what I think of the subtle and not so subtle differences between the two bars. Stay tuned!
Weight: Midge bar = 250 grams
Gary bar = 320 grams
Width: (Note: measurement taken outside to outside at the widest point)
Midge bar = 58cm.
Gary bar = 58cm.
Drop: (Note: measurement taken center line of drop extension to centerline of flat upper section)
Midge = 102.5mm
Gary = 92.5mm
Flats Width: (the upper portion of the bar, either side of the stem clamp to where bar starts to curve to drop section)
Midge = 37cm.
Gary = 28cm
Drop extension length: ( The portion of the drop that is flat- from the hook to the tip)
Midge = 8.5cm.
Gary = 9.5cm.
The differences are subtle, but there. The most notable difference being the slope( or flare as some call it) of the Gary bars drop section which limits the width of the top section in comparison to the Midge. This also cants the brake levers more making them appear to be nearly horizontal from the saddle, which is nearly mustache bar territory. Some may not like that, but again: You are supposed to ride in the drops all the time on these bars. If you can't, they aren't high enough, most likely.
Obviously, weight weenies are going with the Midge bar, but at 320 grams, the Gary isn't a pig, especially when considering the fact that it's designed for the rigors of off roading and is half the price of a Midge bar. By the way, the makers mark on the Gary is from the Kalloy company, which makes some decent parts, albeit heavy, for lots of mountain bikes. I checked the Midge bar for it's makers mark. I found some numbers, but no branding. That's not to say anything other than I don't know who made the thing for On One. I do know it was On One's own engineering and design, so it's obviously worth riding off road, just judging from the reputation of their stuff at On One.
So, the riding of the Gary bar will commence soon, ( after my disc brake pads arrive!) and I'll let you know what I think of the subtle and not so subtle differences between the two bars. Stay tuned!
UPDATE: Brant of On One was kind enough to fill me in and tell me that a company called Premetec manufactures these Midge bars and also bars for the likes of WTB, Syncros, Bontrager, and frame tubing for Trek as well. So, as I suspected, it's a fine outfit that can be trusted and has vast experience in producing bars for off roading. Thanks to Brant and appologies for any inconveniences this may have caused!
Wednesday, March 28, 2007
Wednesday News and Views
Basketball and Bicycles: While I am definitely not a fan of NBA basketball, I have to report that Cannondale has sold a minority ownership stake to star forward, LeBron James. It seems that Mr. James uses cycling as a training tool, and that he has excess amounts of cash, so what the heck? To be fair, James' does give bicycles to kids through his self named foundation, which he hopes helps promote healthier lifestyles amongst today's youth. 29"er content: Cannondale made James a custom 29"er with a modified Lefty based on the Caffeine F-29.
Marin Bikes To Introduce 29"ers?: I read on the inner-web that Marin Bikes may be about to announce a line up of 29"ers for '08. Apparently, models in aluminum and steel are slated for production being configured as hardtails. Single speed and geared models are part of the plan here. After being one of the only "second tier" manufacturers to not show any kind of 29"ers at Interbike in '06, it looks like Marin might have seen the ship leaving the dock and decided to leap on board. Stay tuned for any more developements concerning Marin's 29"ers.
Decorah, Iowa Is The Place: I am heading up to Decorah to meet with folks concerning the upcoming Trans Iowa and Big Wheeled Balyhoo events that are to be held in this North East Iowa town. People unfamiliar with the area always give me a hard time about "mountain biking in Iowa", as if there isn't anything but flat, featureless corn and bean fields for miles and miles. Well, those in the know are hip to the fact that Decorah is unlike anywhere else in Iowa and doesn't fit the mold of the common view of the state at all. I say come to the BWB and find out for yourself. The dates are June 23rd and 24th. More fine details are coming. Stay Tuned!
Marin Bikes To Introduce 29"ers?: I read on the inner-web that Marin Bikes may be about to announce a line up of 29"ers for '08. Apparently, models in aluminum and steel are slated for production being configured as hardtails. Single speed and geared models are part of the plan here. After being one of the only "second tier" manufacturers to not show any kind of 29"ers at Interbike in '06, it looks like Marin might have seen the ship leaving the dock and decided to leap on board. Stay tuned for any more developements concerning Marin's 29"ers.
Decorah, Iowa Is The Place: I am heading up to Decorah to meet with folks concerning the upcoming Trans Iowa and Big Wheeled Balyhoo events that are to be held in this North East Iowa town. People unfamiliar with the area always give me a hard time about "mountain biking in Iowa", as if there isn't anything but flat, featureless corn and bean fields for miles and miles. Well, those in the know are hip to the fact that Decorah is unlike anywhere else in Iowa and doesn't fit the mold of the common view of the state at all. I say come to the BWB and find out for yourself. The dates are June 23rd and 24th. More fine details are coming. Stay Tuned!
Wednesday News and Views
Basketball and Bicycles: While I am definitely not a fan of NBA basketball, I have to report that Cannondale has sold a minority ownership stake to star forward, LeBron James. It seems that Mr. James uses cycling as a training tool, and that he has excess amounts of cash, so what the heck? To be fair, James' does give bicycles to kids through his self named foundation, which he hopes helps promote healthier lifestyles amongst today's youth. 29"er content: Cannondale made James a custom 29"er with a modified Lefty based on the Caffeine F-29.
Marin Bikes To Introduce 29"ers?: I read on the inner-web that Marin Bikes may be about to announce a line up of 29"ers for '08. Apparently, models in aluminum and steel are slated for production being configured as hardtails. Single speed and geared models are part of the plan here. After being one of the only "second tier" manufacturers to not show any kind of 29"ers at Interbike in '06, it looks like Marin might have seen the ship leaving the dock and decided to leap on board. Stay tuned for any more developements concerning Marin's 29"ers.
Decorah, Iowa Is The Place: I am heading up to Decorah to meet with folks concerning the upcoming Trans Iowa and Big Wheeled Balyhoo events that are to be held in this North East Iowa town. People unfamiliar with the area always give me a hard time about "mountain biking in Iowa", as if there isn't anything but flat, featureless corn and bean fields for miles and miles. Well, those in the know are hip to the fact that Decorah is unlike anywhere else in Iowa and doesn't fit the mold of the common view of the state at all. I say come to the BWB and find out for yourself. The dates are June 23rd and 24th. More fine details are coming. Stay Tuned!
Marin Bikes To Introduce 29"ers?: I read on the inner-web that Marin Bikes may be about to announce a line up of 29"ers for '08. Apparently, models in aluminum and steel are slated for production being configured as hardtails. Single speed and geared models are part of the plan here. After being one of the only "second tier" manufacturers to not show any kind of 29"ers at Interbike in '06, it looks like Marin might have seen the ship leaving the dock and decided to leap on board. Stay tuned for any more developements concerning Marin's 29"ers.
Decorah, Iowa Is The Place: I am heading up to Decorah to meet with folks concerning the upcoming Trans Iowa and Big Wheeled Balyhoo events that are to be held in this North East Iowa town. People unfamiliar with the area always give me a hard time about "mountain biking in Iowa", as if there isn't anything but flat, featureless corn and bean fields for miles and miles. Well, those in the know are hip to the fact that Decorah is unlike anywhere else in Iowa and doesn't fit the mold of the common view of the state at all. I say come to the BWB and find out for yourself. The dates are June 23rd and 24th. More fine details are coming. Stay Tuned!
Tuesday, March 27, 2007
Origin 8 "Gary" Bar
I recieved these new off road "dirt drop" bars for testing/ review just yesterday. These are from "Origin 8", which is a house brand of J&B Importers, a nationwide distributor of bicycle parts with headquarters in Miami, Florida.
The bars are part of the "Propulsion" series, which also includes a couple of other bars, like a mustache type bar, and a "funky" riser bar for off roading.
You should be able to find these bars at most local bike shops that have a J&B Importers account, or order them through those bike shops. Gary Bars are in stock and ready for delivery now, according to my contact.
The specs on the bar are as follows: 6061-T6 aluminum alloy, 580mm center to center width, 25.4mm handlebar clamp diameter, Shot peened surface finish that is annodized black, laser etched graphics, and weight is claimed at 310 grams. The retail price should be somewhere around $30.00- $40.00 for these, depending upon your retailer. Street price may be even less.
Obviously, the comparisons to On One's Midge bar are inescapable. Since I own a Midge, I checked out the bars shapes against each other.
First, let me say that they are more similar than different. The length of the drop section is identical, as is the curvature of the drop. The reach and drop measurements seem very close to identical.
The differences are really only two things. One: the overall width of the Gary is maybe a centimeter wider than a Midge, and Two: the slope of the Gary bar is flatter. (Check out my picture here of the Gary) The Midge bar has a more vertical cant to the drops. Therefore, the flat, upper section of the Gary is narrower than the Midge bar's upper section.
I want to take the Midge off the Karate Monkey and get some comparison shots and weight comparisons too.
These Gary bars look to be of good make, reasonable weight for off roading, and have a nice feel, as well they should since the "business end" is exactly like a Midge bar. The sloping, flared out drops on the Gary are the most radical of all the off roadable drop bars and is quite reminiscent of early modified Cinelli "dirt drops" from the early 80's.
Look for a first impression after I get them mounted up on the Karate Monkey later this week. I'll put in a long gravel grinder, and maybe get off road with them before I post again on these. Stay tuned!
Origin 8 "Gary" Bar
I recieved these new off road "dirt drop" bars for testing/ review just yesterday. These are from "Origin 8", which is a house brand of J&B Importers, a nationwide distributor of bicycle parts with headquarters in Miami, Florida.
The bars are part of the "Propulsion" series, which also includes a couple of other bars, like a mustache type bar, and a "funky" riser bar for off roading.
You should be able to find these bars at most local bike shops that have a J&B Importers account, or order them through those bike shops. Gary Bars are in stock and ready for delivery now, according to my contact.
The specs on the bar are as follows: 6061-T6 aluminum alloy, 580mm center to center width, 25.4mm handlebar clamp diameter, Shot peened surface finish that is annodized black, laser etched graphics, and weight is claimed at 310 grams. The retail price should be somewhere around $30.00- $40.00 for these, depending upon your retailer. Street price may be even less.
Obviously, the comparisons to On One's Midge bar are inescapable. Since I own a Midge, I checked out the bars shapes against each other.
First, let me say that they are more similar than different. The length of the drop section is identical, as is the curvature of the drop. The reach and drop measurements seem very close to identical.
The differences are really only two things. One: the overall width of the Gary is maybe a centimeter wider than a Midge, and Two: the slope of the Gary bar is flatter. (Check out my picture here of the Gary) The Midge bar has a more vertical cant to the drops. Therefore, the flat, upper section of the Gary is narrower than the Midge bar's upper section.
I want to take the Midge off the Karate Monkey and get some comparison shots and weight comparisons too.
These Gary bars look to be of good make, reasonable weight for off roading, and have a nice feel, as well they should since the "business end" is exactly like a Midge bar. The sloping, flared out drops on the Gary are the most radical of all the off roadable drop bars and is quite reminiscent of early modified Cinelli "dirt drops" from the early 80's.
Look for a first impression after I get them mounted up on the Karate Monkey later this week. I'll put in a long gravel grinder, and maybe get off road with them before I post again on these. Stay tuned!
Monday, March 26, 2007
Mary In The Woods
After hearing that the Ullrich Park trail cleanup on Saturday went well, I decided to pack up the Mary XC and run over there late Sunday afternoon. It was about the only free time I had all weekend, so I took advantage of it!
The trails were well groomed, but were a bit muddy in a couple spots. The high water did take its toll on the far end of the first section, but everything else was rideable.
The Geax Saguaro tires I have on loan from Twin Six of all places are holding their own in the sticky Iowa mud. They don't shed the goo quite as well as the Michelin XC AT's do, but they aren't total slicks when balled up with mud either. The trail was loamy where it wasn't muddy, and the Geax tires always seemed to dig in and find some traction. Not my first choice for these conditions, but not bad in them either.
Steering provided by Salsa and the new 17 degree bend Moto Ace bar. If you think they look funny and don't try them based upon looks, you will be missing out on one comfy handle bar. I'm willing to bet that if you try an 11 or 17 degree bend Salsa bar your upper body will be thanking you. The ergonomics of these swept bars is noticeable and it improves your ride.
........and speaking of ergonomics. I have to mention that these grips are also incredibly comfortable. Ergon makes these grips and more styles besides which I have posted about several times here. I can't say enough about how they have saved my hands from numbness and worked as advertised. Thanks Ergon, and thanks to Mr. 24 for the Team Green version he let me try out.
So, the Mary is a pretty fun ride. I have some tweaking to do yet, as the handlebar height and steer tube have to be adjusted once I am convinced where everything should be. One thing about the Mary, it's got the lowest head tube height of any 29"er I've tried save the Raleigh XXIX single speed. Lots of headset spacers on there!
The Bontrager Switchblade fork is fun and handles well offroad. The combination of the Mary and this fork are pretty good, making for a quick handling but not overly twitchy bike. I'll hold out on the final judgement of that until I can get on some fast, twisty, flowy singletrack. That might be a bit as wet as things are around here!
Mary In The Woods
After hearing that the Ullrich Park trail cleanup on Saturday went well, I decided to pack up the Mary XC and run over there late Sunday afternoon. It was about the only free time I had all weekend, so I took advantage of it!
The trails were well groomed, but were a bit muddy in a couple spots. The high water did take its toll on the far end of the first section, but everything else was rideable.
The Geax Saguaro tires I have on loan from Twin Six of all places are holding their own in the sticky Iowa mud. They don't shed the goo quite as well as the Michelin XC AT's do, but they aren't total slicks when balled up with mud either. The trail was loamy where it wasn't muddy, and the Geax tires always seemed to dig in and find some traction. Not my first choice for these conditions, but not bad in them either.
Steering provided by Salsa and the new 17 degree bend Moto Ace bar. If you think they look funny and don't try them based upon looks, you will be missing out on one comfy handle bar. I'm willing to bet that if you try an 11 or 17 degree bend Salsa bar your upper body will be thanking you. The ergonomics of these swept bars is noticeable and it improves your ride.
........and speaking of ergonomics. I have to mention that these grips are also incredibly comfortable. Ergon makes these grips and more styles besides which I have posted about several times here. I can't say enough about how they have saved my hands from numbness and worked as advertised. Thanks Ergon, and thanks to Mr. 24 for the Team Green version he let me try out.
So, the Mary is a pretty fun ride. I have some tweaking to do yet, as the handlebar height and steer tube have to be adjusted once I am convinced where everything should be. One thing about the Mary, it's got the lowest head tube height of any 29"er I've tried save the Raleigh XXIX single speed. Lots of headset spacers on there!
The Bontrager Switchblade fork is fun and handles well offroad. The combination of the Mary and this fork are pretty good, making for a quick handling but not overly twitchy bike. I'll hold out on the final judgement of that until I can get on some fast, twisty, flowy singletrack. That might be a bit as wet as things are around here!
Sunday, March 25, 2007
Campy Sneaks Into Off Road Market
I read where Campagnolo, the component manufacturer known best for it's road gruppos, has sort of entered into the off road component manufacturing market. Let me explain.
Campy started a new, separate entity a few years back called Fulcrum. Ostensibly to circumnavigate the issues people might have in the Pro peloton with running Campy wheels with Shimano gruppos. With the Fulcrum branding, Campy could sell the wheels, and the Shimano sponsored teams could run them without fear of getting into hot water with their sponsor. Clever and effective move on Campy's part. Fulcrum has it's own engineering and design staff, but shares alot of technology with Campy.
So now we see that Fulcrum is introducing off road wheelsets. This is interesting, and coupled with the introduction of two road cranksets based on Campy's Ultra Torque bottom bracket and Fulcrum branding it raises my eyebrow just a bit. This is interesting since it shows a willingness on Campy/Fulcrums part to inroduce dirt specific products again and a willingness to brand Campy road component technology as Fulcrum. Will this idea be married and will we see dirt specific Fulcrum components in the future?
Campy has in it's line up a linear pull brake, trigger shifters, and flat bar brake levers for road use already. It wouldn't be a huge leap to make to adjust the design of the shifters to work for the dirt and brand them with the Fulcrum moniker. It also would be a bit of a splash for Campy/Fulcrum to introduce the first 10 speed off road group, since Campy is fully 10 speed these days, with the exception of it's entry level road gruppo.
Of course, this is all speculation, and without some sort of disc brake in the group, Campy/Fulcrum would be mad to enter in the off road market with a full gruppo, but it's fun to think of.
Just think, Campy could come out with an off road group again, sponsor Tinker Juarez, and He could ride a lightning motif Cannondale hardtail in a XC race! Viva la 1992!
Campy started a new, separate entity a few years back called Fulcrum. Ostensibly to circumnavigate the issues people might have in the Pro peloton with running Campy wheels with Shimano gruppos. With the Fulcrum branding, Campy could sell the wheels, and the Shimano sponsored teams could run them without fear of getting into hot water with their sponsor. Clever and effective move on Campy's part. Fulcrum has it's own engineering and design staff, but shares alot of technology with Campy.
So now we see that Fulcrum is introducing off road wheelsets. This is interesting, and coupled with the introduction of two road cranksets based on Campy's Ultra Torque bottom bracket and Fulcrum branding it raises my eyebrow just a bit. This is interesting since it shows a willingness on Campy/Fulcrums part to inroduce dirt specific products again and a willingness to brand Campy road component technology as Fulcrum. Will this idea be married and will we see dirt specific Fulcrum components in the future?
Campy has in it's line up a linear pull brake, trigger shifters, and flat bar brake levers for road use already. It wouldn't be a huge leap to make to adjust the design of the shifters to work for the dirt and brand them with the Fulcrum moniker. It also would be a bit of a splash for Campy/Fulcrum to introduce the first 10 speed off road group, since Campy is fully 10 speed these days, with the exception of it's entry level road gruppo.
Of course, this is all speculation, and without some sort of disc brake in the group, Campy/Fulcrum would be mad to enter in the off road market with a full gruppo, but it's fun to think of.
Just think, Campy could come out with an off road group again, sponsor Tinker Juarez, and He could ride a lightning motif Cannondale hardtail in a XC race! Viva la 1992!
Campy Sneaks Into Off Road Market
I read where Campagnolo, the component manufacturer known best for it's road gruppos, has sort of entered into the off road component manufacturing market. Let me explain.
Campy started a new, separate entity a few years back called Fulcrum. Ostensibly to circumnavigate the issues people might have in the Pro peloton with running Campy wheels with Shimano gruppos. With the Fulcrum branding, Campy could sell the wheels, and the Shimano sponsored teams could run them without fear of getting into hot water with their sponsor. Clever and effective move on Campy's part. Fulcrum has it's own engineering and design staff, but shares alot of technology with Campy.
So now we see that Fulcrum is introducing off road wheelsets. This is interesting, and coupled with the introduction of two road cranksets based on Campy's Ultra Torque bottom bracket and Fulcrum branding it raises my eyebrow just a bit. This is interesting since it shows a willingness on Campy/Fulcrums part to inroduce dirt specific products again and a willingness to brand Campy road component technology as Fulcrum. Will this idea be married and will we see dirt specific Fulcrum components in the future?
Campy has in it's line up a linear pull brake, trigger shifters, and flat bar brake levers for road use already. It wouldn't be a huge leap to make to adjust the design of the shifters to work for the dirt and brand them with the Fulcrum moniker. It also would be a bit of a splash for Campy/Fulcrum to introduce the first 10 speed off road group, since Campy is fully 10 speed these days, with the exception of it's entry level road gruppo.
Of course, this is all speculation, and without some sort of disc brake in the group, Campy/Fulcrum would be mad to enter in the off road market with a full gruppo, but it's fun to think of.
Just think, Campy could come out with an off road group again, sponsor Tinker Juarez, and He could ride a lightning motif Cannondale hardtail in a XC race! Viva la 1992!
Campy started a new, separate entity a few years back called Fulcrum. Ostensibly to circumnavigate the issues people might have in the Pro peloton with running Campy wheels with Shimano gruppos. With the Fulcrum branding, Campy could sell the wheels, and the Shimano sponsored teams could run them without fear of getting into hot water with their sponsor. Clever and effective move on Campy's part. Fulcrum has it's own engineering and design staff, but shares alot of technology with Campy.
So now we see that Fulcrum is introducing off road wheelsets. This is interesting, and coupled with the introduction of two road cranksets based on Campy's Ultra Torque bottom bracket and Fulcrum branding it raises my eyebrow just a bit. This is interesting since it shows a willingness on Campy/Fulcrums part to inroduce dirt specific products again and a willingness to brand Campy road component technology as Fulcrum. Will this idea be married and will we see dirt specific Fulcrum components in the future?
Campy has in it's line up a linear pull brake, trigger shifters, and flat bar brake levers for road use already. It wouldn't be a huge leap to make to adjust the design of the shifters to work for the dirt and brand them with the Fulcrum moniker. It also would be a bit of a splash for Campy/Fulcrum to introduce the first 10 speed off road group, since Campy is fully 10 speed these days, with the exception of it's entry level road gruppo.
Of course, this is all speculation, and without some sort of disc brake in the group, Campy/Fulcrum would be mad to enter in the off road market with a full gruppo, but it's fun to think of.
Just think, Campy could come out with an off road group again, sponsor Tinker Juarez, and He could ride a lightning motif Cannondale hardtail in a XC race! Viva la 1992!
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