Hey! It's Labor Day here in the USA. The weekend which marks the 'end of Summer' here. Usually a day off for most of us. But I'm not taking the day off! Here's a special "Two Things" post for your enjoyment. Thanks, as always, for reading Guitar Ted Productions.
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| Image courtesy of Marin Bikes |
Marin Bikes released news of a 40th anniversary model celebrating their first bike offered in 1986. Called the Madrone Trail, it was Marin's only offering that year.
While the silhouette is that of an first gen MTB, the bike has been modernized with a threadless steer tube/head set, disc brakes, and 1X drive train.
Featuring a 'bull moose' style handle bar with swept back extensions, the bike seems like a laid-back cruiser more suited to bar crawls and casual riding. All this for 12 hundred bucks or so.
The bike is a limited run offering and I'm reading that it is sold out already. But if you are curious, you can check out the details at Marin's site HERE.
Comments: It is an interesting exercise, if nothing else, to see an old design modernized. That said, I am reminded of how many brands stuck to a design borrowed from a 1930's children's bike by the early MTB builders and never improved upon until a decade had gone by after Joe Breeze's first efforts.
That is probably due to the prevailing attitude in the early 1980's that mountain bikes were a fad and sooner or later people would come to their senses and forget about this nonsense. So much for that sentiment!
I think it is also apparent this bike has an incredibly short top tube for a bike like this. Most bikes from this era don't have this short of a reach, but this is not meant to be a "mountain bike" for 2026 either. It is a novelty bike, and as such, it is just fine.
One more detail which caught my eye was the use of 27.5/650B wheels. I truly believe that if 650B had been widely available and had wider tires back in the 1970's that "26 inch" as we knew it would never have happened. What the "butterfly effect" of that would have had on the future is kind of interesting. One could easily argue that 29" would have been skipped over for 32", and we'd have a completely different set of bicycles than we have now.
Maybe.... It's fun to consider though.
Saving Nicky Brooks:
Once in a while I see an old leather saddle come through the Cedar Valley Bicycle Collective. We had one show up on a really old drop bar bike of questionable vintage and it had this leather saddle on it.
Turns out it is a Brooks B-17. So, definitely worth refurbishing this one, at least I think so. You dear readers here might remember the Brooks I refurbished last year, I think it was. That turned out okay, and was in far worse condition than this one. So, I figured this shouldn't prove to be too tough to do.
There was some rust, a lot of nicks and scrapes in the leather cover, but not too many cracks and it was dry, but not as "desert dry" as the last one I worked on. I think it has copper rivets too, which if true is a bit harder to find. (They might just be really rusty! Ha!) Whomever rode it rode enough to get their sit bone impressions indented into the leather. If this saddle was ever tensioned, I don't think it was by much more than a turn of the tensioning nut. There is a ton of adjustment left here.
But is it really a Brooks B-17?
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| The ultra-rare "Nicky" Brooks! |
I've already cleaned it, and applied the first coating of Brooks Proofide, and I have done a little work on the metal as well. I'll update you as things go along, but I did note a few things with this saddle.
I have a Brooks B-17 Speacial off a bike for the time being and I thought I'd compare the two saddles. They say Brooks saddles are being made the same way since the 19th Century. This is mostly true, but apparently there are some minor differences.
Looking at the older saddle's rails, I could see marks at points where bends were executed on the steel rails. On the newer one, (2000's vintage), the saddle rails are completely smooth and have no tool marks at all on them.
I also noted the saddle rails on the newer B-17 look ever so slightly bigger in diameter. I haven't put a digital calipers to them yet, but I plan on doing so to verify this. Lastly, the tensioning nut on the older saddle is thinner than it is on the newer one. This is plain to see, and you do not have to measure to see that.
But several things were exactly the same. The "Brooks England" mark is in the same part of the frame on both in the same direction and almost exactly in the same place. This is remarkable. Of course, the Special has the larger copper rivets, but otherwise everything about the older one looks pretty spot on in comparison to the newer one minus what I have detailed already.
One other detail I noted was the ordinary looking seat post clamp which was on the saddle rails is actually a Brooks England made clamp! I'm not sure I've ever seen this before. I almost tossed it into the scrap, as those multi-piece, clamshell clamps are ubiquitous and we have enough to last years at the Collective. But a Brooks made one? That seems rare to me.
















