Showing posts with label 32" Fargo. Show all posts
Showing posts with label 32" Fargo. Show all posts

Wednesday, October 28, 2026

No Sir, I Do Not Like It

Singular Pterodactyl (Image courtesy of Singular Cycles)
So, as I've hinted here previously, there is an opportunity for myself to partake in an adventure which will be an unpaved trek. This particular possibility would be a prime candidate for a 32"er. Obviously, I do not own one. I do not need another bicycle, but I am curious about a larger diameter wheel on unpaved roads. 

To that end I've been looking at some currently available 32" wheeled bicycles. My focus has been on the Singular Pterodactyl, the Salsa Cycles Fargo, and the Twin Six 3x2 bike. 

Of course, there are other 32" wheeled options out there, most of which are custom and very expensive. Leaving prices aside, availability is not great, and if I decide to go custom you always run the risk of being let down, which I've experienced first hand with custom bikes. So, I think I'd rather not go that route, both from my experiences and from the price standpoint. 

Salsa Cycles Fargo 32"ers. (Image courtesy of Salsa Cycles)
I checked out each of the three 32 inch wheeled bikes mentioned above and I was not 100% sold on the decisions made on each bike. There is something about each one which kind of puts me off on pursuing getting one of the three. Of all of these, the Singular comes the closest to what I'd do, but it is not really all that different than the others as far as things which bug me. And to be fair, some of this stuff would probably bug me about any 32"er. 

Things like the seat tube length. Maybe I am not accounting for how seat tube length has to be different for a 32"er. I am not sure about that. However; any seat tube shorter than 53cm is going to have a boatload of exposed seat post for my preferred fit. Two of these choices fall well short of 53cm, so this kind of concerns me. Again, maybe I just don't understand the geometry on 32 inch wheels, but it seems to me that I would definitely not be happy with a short seat tube and a ton of exposed seat post. Been there, done that on an early 29"er. The Pterodactyl I'd fit best on (Size Large) has a 55cm seat tube. That's great.

Secondly, bottom bracket drop is all over the place. I like what Salsa Cycles has done on the Fargo, dropping the bottom bracket below the axles at 106mm, while the other two bikes seem to have quite a bit less drop than this. I don't like high bottom brackets on 700 c bikes, so this concerns me as well. 

The head angle on the Twin Six 3x2 is 69.5°, but the Fargo's is even slacker at 67° and the Pterodactyl seems steep at 71°. Of course, fork offset can be altered to get handling dialed in and the Fargo has 51mm, which seems like not quite enough for that slack a head angle and 32" wheels. Then the T-6 has a flip chip, so you can set their fork at 52mm or 59mm. Seems like a better deal with the unknown of 32" wheels. The Pterodactyl offset is 50mm, which seems like not enough to avoid toe overlap with a steeper head angle, but the trail is already stated to be at 88mm, so.... 

Twin Six 3x2 (Image courtesy of Twin Six)

And finally, the fit is odd for myself. I either have "okay" stand over and maybe a tiny bit too short a front center, or barely any stand over and good to almost too much front center distance. Stack height on any of these is ridiculously tall, so this explains all the negative rise stems you are seeing on 32"ers. 

Soo.... What with the expense, the unknowns, having to downsize my fleet, and parts acquisitions, (wheels?!!) this idea seems like a really tough pill to swallow right now. I guess where I am at is that I really don't want a bike that has several compromises just to experience 32" wheels. Not for what it would cost, or from my perspective of being where I am at in life. 

N.Y. Roll is getting the Twin Six 3x2. I may get to spin that around the block, if he is kind enough to allow me to try it out. But the others would be totally on faith and by the numbers. And right now, I'd say,"No sir, I do not like it."  

And it isn't as if I don't have bicycles. Right? I'd be fine with the Fargo Gen I, or the Singular Cycles Gryphon Mk3, which is a fantastic, versatile bike. I have the Black Mountain Cycles MCD, a very fine rig, and the Singular Peregrine Mk4, which is also a capable bike. 

No shade on anyone who has a 32"er or is jonesing for one. I get it. I just don't think the cake is fully baked yet, and I want to see some refinement in geometry and sizing before I'd be willing to jump in. And again, I may never jump in. But if something like this ever came around, I might change my mind. 

Friday, August 07, 2026

Friday News And Views

Image courtesy of Salsa Cycles
32" Fargo Live Now:

Salsa Cycles announced on Tuesday of this week that 32" Fargo frame sets were available from them now. Steel for now, titanium is yet to come this Fall. 

Comments: A drop bar specific 32" adventure bike? Yes. The Fargo is now available in the largest wheels you can get from Salsa Cycles. This follows the trend of brands getting whatever they can out in 32" wheels as fast as possible ahead of the Big Four brands. 

Although Salsa isn't necessarily a small brand. So this does hit a little differently. We will have to monitor how well this version of the Fargo does, as it may be an indication for the overall impact of 32" wheels on the market. 

But beyond speculation, we can now put some numbers on this Fargo 32"er. The frame, with carbon fork, cost $1,799.00 USD. That is surprising, to a degree, to me. I was speculating this would cost 2K. I was wrong about that. 

Then we see what Salsa estimates the weight of this Fargo with carbon fork is going to be. They are claiming an 8lb 9oz weight, which is only 10 ounces heavier than the steel frame/carbon fork Fargo in the 29"er guise. Not bad for a frame with longer stays. Although, I was a little taken aback by the weight of the frame and fork at first glance. That said, the Fargo never pretended to be a lightweight platform. 

It's an interesting offering, and that Pearl Orchid color is quite nice, if I do say so myself.  

Michael Kolakowski
BRAN Announces New President Of Bicycle Ride Across Nebraska Inc.:

When I was on BRAN earlier this Summer I was made aware the ride is 100% run by volunteers. Their president was also on his last BRAN as the leader of the organization. So this ride was going to be looking for a new President and Vice President for the coming years. 

Having been an event organizer for as many years as I was, and knowing volunteers are the heart and soul of any event, I was concerned about how a new President and Vice President would affect this cool event. Well, my fears were allayed recently concerning this when I received the email sent to past BRAN riders which heralded the news of BRAN's new officers. 

The new President is Michael Kolakowski, and the new Vice President is his wife, Jackie Kolakowski. I rode with Michael all week long at BRAN, and I got to know him well enough to be of the opinion he is the perfect person to lead this ride into the future. 

Michael is an avid cyclist, being a commuter in Omaha and loving his country rides in a way I could relate to easily. He is a BRAN veteran, having been on many past BRAN rides and he knows all the ins and outs of BRAN as a rider and as a volunteer on the team for several years. 

Of course, I do not know Jackie, but I have no doubt she is as capable as Michael is, and by his own admission, a very smart and capable individual in her own right. So I feel she will also be a compliment to BRAN and its future.

Congratulations Michael and Jackie!

Guitar Ted Podcast Update:

I haven't been promoting the podcast here as much as I probably should be. So, let me take a bit of space here to do this.....

We're putting out shows at around one every two weeks or so. The latest ones, "Episodes 112, 113, and 114 are all pretty new. If you haven't listened for a while, you can catch up with us on those episodes. 

We  are hoping to get a few interviews done before we take our traditional break in December. Look for those to be sprinkled throughout the coming months. 

Finally, a big 'Thank You" to all who have expressed their feelings about the podcast to me of late. It appears several of you listen faithfully whenever we post a new episode.  N.Y. Roll and I are always amazed by any responses we get. So, again - Thanks!! 

I think we are going to get about 15 more episodes in before the end of 2026 which would make this year the record for episodes released. Year four isn't quite over with yet, but we are looking forward to Year 5 with anticipation.  

Embark: Good Stuff!

About four years ago, N.Y. Roll brought back a nutritional product for cycling, (and more), by a Wisconsin based company called Embark. I tried it out and it worked so well I actually bought some and tested it out for the site HERE. 

Oddly enough, I don't do enough events anymore that I think about on the bike nutrition, but the Ride For Jacob got me thinking about this again. Actually, you could say this started percolating in my mind during BRAN. 

Anyway, I landed on Embark in my research on the site here. I actually had a spare packet of the stuff and used it up this Spring, but at that time I did not place another order for it. 

Well, this past week I went ahead and got some more. They are currently running a sale on their Embark Maple Energy packets if you are curious. I highly recommend the stuff. 

By the way, I am not affiliated with Embark in any way, so I don't get anything out of it if you decide to check them out. It's just really good, natural energy which tastes great and can be used straight, in water bottles, or in cooking. 

That is a wrap on this week! Thanks for reading Guitar Ted Productions. Now get out there and ride those bicycles.  

Friday, July 24, 2026

Friday News And Views

Image courtesy of Crust Bikes
 Crust Bikes Didn't Want 26+ To Die:

Crust Bikes released a new 26"er tire this week in 26 X 2.8" size, which is commonly called "plus sized" in mountain bike terms, by most folks anyway.  

The new tire is called the Mateo, and is a modestly knobbly affair with a 120TPI tubeless ready casing, foldable bead, and weighs approximately 750 grams. 

Available now via Crust Bikes website in black sidewall only and in the 2,8" width only. 

Comments: I think this is a great idea. However; there are not a lot of bicycles this tire will fit into. Some Surly bikes will allow for this to slide in, and of course, rim choice will determine fit with this tire as well. A wider rim will yield wider tire widths and narrower rims will make the same tire less wide. 

I'm not sure this would fit my Big Dummy without some modification of the rear end. I have Northstar 45mm wide rims on the bike now running 26" x 2.4" tires and that is pushing the limits already. I ran 26" x 2.5" tires on Velocity Cliffhangars on my old 1X1 single speed bike, which I loved for urban commuting. So, I almost want to get a set of these tires to try on my Big Dummy. 

Image courtesy of Surly Bikes
Speak Of The Devil:

Surly pulled the Big Dummy out of their range in 2023. However; now it is back again as a complete or as a frame set with bags. The new offering can handle 26" x 2.5" tires with fenders and comes with a center mount kickstand in the complete offering. 

Sporting a 1X Shimano CUES 9 speed drive train and Tektro two-piston hydraulic brakes, the Big Dummy is rated for 499lbs of weight bearing. 

Prices for the Twilight Zone blue complete is $2,699.00 and the frame set is in the same color for $1,999.00. See the Surly webpage for the Big Dummy HERE. 

Image courtesy of Salsa Cycles
32: Fargos Arriving Soon:

The Salsa Cycles Fargo, it's longest running model, takes a leap into another level with the advent of 32" wheels. According to an email blast sent out this week riders can expect to be able to grab a steel Fargo 32" frame set sometime in August. The titanium frame set will follow in the Fall, according to the email.

Also there will be wheels and tires on offer, (likely the Teravail components, but possibly something else as well), to flesh out your build. It should be noted that complete 32" bikes are not available yet from Salsa Cycles. No indication of when completes might become available with 32" wheels was made either. 

Comments: While this is great news for 32" wheel curious folks, there has been no indication of what exact pricing will be on the steel frame set. Those hoping for an inexpensive option will likely have their hopes dashed though, as I am expecting these frame sets to top out over 2K and you still need wheels and tires to boot.  

Not to say this won't be a great option, because it probably will be a great option in my opinion. It just won't be a "32 curious friendly" option. I do like what appears to be color-shift paint on the steel Fargo 32"er though. 

Image courtesy of Selle Italia
Selle Italia Introduces New SLR Gravel Range:

News came out this week about a new gravel oriented saddle range from venerable saddle maker Selle Italia. Their SLR model was one of the darlings of the early ultra-MTB scene in the early 2000's, and now this range looks to become a top choice for gravel riders. 

Focusing on rider comfort over rough terrain, this new saddle range has what Selle Italia calls a "Bow Rail System" to deal with vibrations. This particular saddle shown here, the SLR Gravel Elite, has another unique feature in the included Protective Insert. The small sliver of material fills the cut-out to help prevent riders from getting wet or from having debris contact their shorts while riding in inclement weather or over looser terrain. This insert can be left out as needed by the rider also. 

The SLR Gravel Elite comes in two widths and sells for $249.90 USD. 

Comments: Perhaps a lot of younger riders do not know Selle Italia, but their saddles are legendary in the older annals of MTB and ultra-MTB racing. This new saddle seems a bit different than most gravel oriented saddles. I especially like seeing this protective insert option, which whether or not is effective, seems smart from a marketing perspective. 

Image courtesy of West High Wahawks Football

A Dedication:

Today would have been my son Jacob's birthday. I wanted to dedicate this FN&V column to his memory. I have an image of him here at football practice from 2020. Thanks to Waterloo West High Wahawk Football for the image.  

Tomorrow I will be hosting the Ride For Jacob. The 46 mile, mostly gravel route will be a good one and I am expecting at least a small number of folks to show up to help me remember my son.

One thing I wanted to add here, and that is my sincere thanks and deep gratitude to you, the readers of Guitar Ted Productions, who have steadfastly supported me through this past year. Your kind comments and even your silence when I posted some intensely personal feelings concerning the death of my son a year ago were noted.  

One never knows if things expressed which are intense in nature and not the ordinary content for a cycling related blog will be acceptable to the readership, but I felt I could trust you all with this. I was certainly not disappointed in doing so. And so I thank you all for your kindness, your consideration, and yes, even your silence, all which has allowed me to express myself freely without condemnation of any kind.  

A report on the ride will appear Monday.

Thanks again. Now get out there and ride those bicycles! 

Wednesday, June 03, 2026

Two Things

Wait.....what's this now?

 Peregrine Part Deux:

Last year I picked up a Singular Peregrine Mk4 frame and fork. I based my selection of a size Large on the data shown on Singular's site. However; once I had it built up and I had ridden it some, I was caught second guessing that decision. 

The bike seemed a bit compact in length to me, but again, the sizing charts were correct and matched the frame. It wasn't a total disaster, by any stretch, but I knew it was going to require a lot of fiddling around to dial it in better. At the time, (last Fall 2025), I wasn't motivated to tackle that just yet. I was, and still am, dealing with a lot in my life elsewhere. 

However; early this Spring I had mentioned while texting with Matt Gersib that I wasn't 100% settled into that bike yet and I mentioned what I had in mind to tweak it. Matt had another idea. 

One thing led to another and well, an exchange was arranged with Singular Cycles for a size XL Peregrine Mk4. The terms were very generous on the part of Singular and I was happy to pursue this possibility. Now the frame and fork are here and just before I leave for a big trip! 

So..... I'll have to put this off until my return from BRAN. That will be tough to do, but I have a lot of details to pull together before I leave and tinkering with swapping parts off one frame to another will have to wait. Meanwhile, at least I won't have any questions about what I will be doing once I return. Look for a full report when I get back and started in on this project.  

Once again, image courtesy of Mike Riemer
A Little Follow-up On That 32" Fargo At Unbound:

While the Scott 32"ers grabbed most of the oxygen in the post Unbound room, those weren't the only successful rides put in on 32" wheels. I mentioned it in my thoughts on the recent happenings at Unbound here, but there were some thoughts shared in the comments on that article I thought deserved more eyeballs. 

First though, let's give Joe Meiser, the rider of the Fargo 32"er, some props. Those were some horrendous conditions, and Joe came through quite well, by all accounts. Additionally he hasn't been actively racing much of late, so his come-back, if we can call it that, is even more remarkable. 200 miles in the Flint Hills is no joke on a decent weather year. This was anything but a decent weather year, so hats off to Joe! 

Now, Mike Riemer, image taker of Joe finishing the 200 here, jumped in the comments and had the following to say:

"Joe’s Fargo 32 stayed incredibly free of mud. At each support stop we sprayed 2 or 3 bottles of water onto his drivetrain and brake calipers. At those stops I pulled a small amount of mud from the top of his bb (bottom bracket) shell. That was the only place it collected. Joe finished in 12:43 and was incredibly steady throughout. He averaged 16.26 mph, which is what he’d planned on doing. Checkpoint 3 was the only time we saw him feeling the affects of the day, as he began using one word answers and one word requests. Pretty great performance IMO and all based on a training plan of just 10 hours riding per week."

So, do 32" wheels shed mud better than smaller wheels? Reports on the Scott bikes also made mention of this. Although I think it is fair to say that some witnesses to the event, and some riders, were saying this mud was wetter and less sticky than some years of this races past where the mud was like Velcro. I can say this may be true, as I witnessed and rode through very sticky mud in 2015 where the event saw no rain on race day, but had been rained on for days prior to the event. Overcast and foggy conditions that year ensured there would be no drying out of the roads from Sun or wind. 

It is an interesting observation, all the more so after seeing many 700c bikes from this year's event packed up with sticky mud. Something to think about if you are considering a 32"er. 

Monday, May 18, 2026

Two Things

 

 Testing 1,2,3....

 Just testing out this shiny new laptop I got Friday for this BRAN gig coming up in a couple of weeks. 

I need to be able to update the blog from the road, and well.....  Dragging a PC around isn't very practical. So this laptop was procured and it should provide me with the means to do some writin' on the road. 

I'm still testing this thing out and hopefully images won't be too hard to get the way I want them. You know, technology isn't my best area of expertise, although I will advocate for myself a little here and claim a bit of competency in dealing with new things. 

So, wish me well. 

And for the tech nerds out there I will head off any questions in the comments and let you know what device we ended up with. It is a Lenovo Yoga (I say "Yoda", but Mrs. Guitar Ted doesn't like that!)

So, there ya go. Stay tuned for more from the Yoda laptop soon. 

Note: The above part was posted on the laptop. Now back to the regular PC.... 

Joe Meiser with a Ti Fargo 32 (Image by Steve Fuller)
The 32" Watch: Ti Fargo 32 Completes Century Gravel Ride:

Have you, like me, been thinking a 32"er might be good for gravel road riding? Well, apparently Quality Bicycle Products' own Joe Meiser, a former Trans Iowa winner, thinks it does. He just used a 32"er Ti Fargo to complete the century distance at this past weekend's Heywood Ride. 

Thanks to volunteer Steve Fuller, we have this image and a few details. Apparently Joe chose Teravail Ciclos carbon rims and had these laced to Berd hubs with the Berd spokes which, I would imagine, results in a very lightweight wheel set. 

Those are the Teravail Cannonball 32" tires on there as well. Steve got a quick ride on it and said the bike felt pretty natural to him. It is an XL size, by the way. 

32" Fargos will be available in titanium and steel coming later this year. See your Salsa Cycles dealer for more details. 

And....

I have seen an image of another prototype 32"er which I have been told will work with drop bars or flat bars which will be offered "very soon." This will be coming from a company not known primarily as a bicycle company, by the way. 

Stay tuned..... 

Thursday, April 16, 2026

Thoughts On The 32"er Fargo

Note: The images shared in this article were provided as part of the Teravail tire and rim release.  Commentary is Guitar Ted's.

Titanium Fargo 32'er. Image courtesy of Teravail

 This announcement by Salsa Cycles is perhaps one of the worst kept secrets in the cycling industry, that I am aware of, for quite some time. Rumors and sightings of the 32"er Fargo prototypes have been circulating around the internet for months. 

Now that the bike is out in the open, what can we infer from its release? Technical specs will  be everywhere on the internet, undoubtedly, and will be debated. What I am interested in is what impact this may have regarding 29"ers and 32"ers going forward. 

Image courtesy of Teravail
With the tires this bike is being sold with, and with the option of using a Teravail Camrock or Cannonball, it seems as though QBP/Salsa/Teravail are all in on 32"ers, at least for the short term. 

Salsa Cycles, as reported in a recent "Bicycle Retailer and Industry News" report, is one of the top five brands at the retail level in the USA.With a steel Fargo 32"er and a titanium one, it would be apparent that Salsa is betting on robust sales of 32" wheeled Fargos, at least in the short term. Salsa certainly has the presence at the retail level to support larger numbers of bikes in 32" wheels. 

That same "BRAIN" article showed a big drop off for retail presence for many other brands. Of course, Trek is number one with Specialized right behind. Cannondale ranks up there as well as Giant. These are brands which typically are more conservative with newer ideas in niche areas of cycling. However; I would expect something from one or more of the Big Four brands sooner than later if Salsa sees brisk sales of Fargos with giant wheels. 

Image courtesy of Teravail

The Fargo was the original "Adventure by Bike" product and certainly this new Fargo will be aimed at taller folk for bike packing and gravel uses. The mountain bike DNA the Fargo has always had will make this a decent mild single track bike. I think 32" wheels and the Fargo is a good fit. But what about other bikes? 

Well, we will see. It all depends upon how the marketplace sees 32"ers. Will they be pigeonholed into XC MTB? Will the big wheels find a home in the bikepacking crowd? What about drop bar bikes for gravel? I think all of this will be offered up front, but what catches on is anyone's guess. 

In the end, you still won't be putting many medium sized people on these bikes and smaller folk won't even have the option. (Although Salsa is offering a small in the Fargo, surprisingly) In this scenario I see 29"ers still being the dominant wheel size. Then the question becomes "Will the industry support two different wheel sizes? If history is any indication, the answer has to be "No". For example, the 27.5"er wheels are still around, but they are being shed from the gravel side faster than a speeding bullet and are becoming rarer in MTB all the time. Same situation with the once ballyhooed "Plus-sized" wheels. 

My gut tells me the industry will not suffer two major wheel sizes for long. I could be wrong. But history says I'm probably right.  

UPDATE: Check out this VIDEO from Bikepacking.com where Neil Beltechenko reviews the new Titanium Fargo.  

In the video it is revealed that the Fargo 32 will only be frame/fork/through axles/head set/seat collar at first with the steel bike coming in the Fall of 2026. Standard Boost spacing , which is a bit of a surprise, and a size small!  Whisky Mtn carbon fork, (for now). Prices: $3,499.00 titanium and $1,799.00 steel.