Selle SMP Pro Saddle: Part 2

 Note: This review is of a used Selle SMP saddle Guitar Ted purchased from the Cedar Valley Bicycle Collective. Selle SMP is not aware of this review and all opinions are Guitar Ted's.

It's another first impressions post on the Selle SMP Pro saddle. This is the second part of the initial review. You can see Par1 HERE. 

This saddle has been on several short test rides and now one two-hour ride to start seeing if I need to change anything about the saddle tilt or setback. 

I've used multiple surfaces to rest this saddle ranging from smooth pavement and bicycle path to dirt single track with gravel of several different types in there as well.

Noting I have the saddle tilted nose-down slightly, I find it rather surprising that I don't find this bothersome. Given I typically cannot live with a nose-down saddle position for any amount of time, I was taken aback by how natural feeling the SMP nose-down position felt. 

Secondly, I found the leather top to be really easy to reposition myself on without it feeling slippery or too grippy. It seems it is either way with most saddles - Too grippy or too slippery. This nice cover is also padded very nicely. 

The saddle feels sort of like a well-broken in Brooks leather saddle. There is a bit of a depression, or as I like to call it, a "bucket" you sit in. It isn't a "one-sweet spot" type of saddle either. You can find multiple small adjustments which all seemed to be as comfortable as the others, in my opinion. I like this as I cannot sit in one place, unmoved, for very long while riding a bicycle.

The weird shaped nose is completely a non-issue. You wouldn't know it was bent downward like it is while riding it. Perhaps this is bent like it is if you are riding something steep and you get way up on the nose of the saddle? Not sure.... 

Okay, that is where I am at now with the SMP Pro. Longer rides to find out if there are any small issues or tweaks to be made are up next.  

Selle SMP Pro Saddle: Part 1

  Note: This review is of a used Selle SMP saddle Guitar Ted purchased from the Cedar Valley Bicycle Collective. Selle SMP is not aware of this review and all opinions are Guitar Ted's. 

Last week I introduced to you the Selle SMP saddles, if you were not already aware of them.  As it turned out, several of you were aware of the brand and are current users of an SMP saddle. If you missed last week's post, click HERE. 

One of the comments I received on that post was a quite informative one. In the comment was a link to professional bike fitter, Steve Hogg's article on SMP saddles. It is a deep-dive into all of Selle SMP's models and where they are best applied, in Hogg's opinion, amongst various cyclists. (Click HERE for Steve Hogg's SMP post) Beware! It is technical, long, and may be more of a rabbit hole than you may want to dive into! 

I found it to be very informative and instructive as to how to set up an SMP saddle. According to Hogg, the "Pro" model is a bit of an outlier in SMP's range, but a very comfort oriented choice nonetheless. To my way of thinking, it fits best for the common, non-racer cyclists who want a saddle to relieve numbness and promote comfort on long rides. So, I think I fell into a good choice with this Pro model. 

I decided to mount the Pro on my 2014 Raleigh Tamland Two, as it is set up in a bit more of a tourist/comfort/endurance way than some of my other gravel bikes. All that to say the Tamland is set up for comfort on longer outings. Perfect for this review. 

I did have an issue with wheels though, and this took several days to sort out. I do not have many choices in quick release wheels anymore! Additionally, I have few bikes which use quick release drop outs anymore, so this complicated matters a bit. In the end, I did find a set of wheels and if the tires seal up (tubeless) and I don't have to revisit that, we're good to go now. 

As you can see here I have the Selle SMP Pro nose down just a bit, as my friend from Nebraska, Jayme said I should do. The seat post is a two bolt design which allows easy micro-adjustments. So the next phase in testing will be to go on a ride and take a wrench with me to adjust the post as necessary. Initially I can say it feels "right", but things can change while riding a longer time than just around the block. 

 I did note something when I got the bike outdoors and test rode the set up. The leather SMP uses is very soft and luxurious feeling. In fact, it was startling compared to other saddles I have. I'm not sure this will have any effect upon riding, but it is noteworthy. For being a used saddle, it sure looks almost new, so I don't know that this softness was a wear-in effect, and I'm inclined to think this is just how the Pro is out of the box. But this is speculation. Perhaps someone out there can comment if they have any experience with this. 

In the Hogg article, it was noted the SMP saddles have longer saddle rails than many other saddles do, and I think you can see this from my image above. I agree, the rails are long. Finding a saddle set-back appropriate to your fit shouldn't be an issue. You can see how I slid the Pro up a bit, compensating for the longer offset of this carbon post I'm using. 

Okay, so that is all I have for you on this SMP saddle today. I'll get some riding done and will report back again soon. Thanks for reading Guitar Ted Productions!  

What Is Up With With Selle SMP Saddles?

 Note: This review is of a used Selle SMP saddle Guitar Ted purchased from the Cedar Valley Bicycle Collective. Selle SMP is not aware of this review and all opinions are Guitar Ted's. 

Looking at saddles over the years a strange looking choice popped up which has always intrigued me. The Selle SMP saddles looked......weird compared to everything else I was seeing. I couldn't wrap my mind around the shape. It looked broken. And the huge cut-out section was odd too. Everything about the saddle seemed a bit off to my eyes. Plus, they weren't inexpensive either. 

Then a friend of mine showed up with a well worn one on his bike. He had purchased it new, so it was obvious he liked it and had a lot of time on it. So, of course, I had to ask. "How is that thing to ride?" He said it was the most comfortable saddle he'd ever used. It did not make him numb, and that was a big issue for him in the past. 

Okay.....sample of one. I filed that away in the brain trust, and then kept on riding. 

We're gonna get to the bottom of this....

Then on the recent BRAN ride I noted Jayme had these Growtac shifters on his bike and he offered me a quick test ride on his bike to try them out. (Another subject for another time) I then noted he had a Selle SMP saddle on his bike. So, I also got to see how this saddle felt. 

And you know what? It may look weird, but that short ride told me there was something to this oddball of the cycling saddle world. It just so happened that not long before BRAN a Selle SMP Pro saddle was donated to the Collective. So, when I returned from BRAN, I purchased the saddle and well......here we are!

What It Is: The Selle SMP Pro is their intermediate level saddle for MTB, gravel, or road for both Men or Women. It has a real leather cover, (in black only), or a MicroFiber cover in several different colors. The rails are made of AISI Stainless steel. A carbon railed version is also available. The shell is made of carbon reinforced Nylon 12. The padding is a foamed elastomer. 

The overal width of the SMP Pro is 148mm and the length is 278mm. Claimed weight is 350gm with the stainless steel rails and drops to 295gms with carbon rails. Cost for the Selle SMP Pro is $269.00USD with stainless steel rails and $449.00 with the carbon rails. 

Intentions: The intent of this review is to find out if the Selle SMP works for me at all. I want to see how it feels on longer rides. Is it the bees knees like many say it is, or just an oddball saddle that is merely different and works okay? Is it worth the asking price? How well is it made? How hard is it to set up correctly? 

That last point was something Jayme shared with me. He straight up told me if I set it up incorrectly it won't work for me. He pointed out his saddle and asked me to note how much tilt it had nose-downward. He claimed if I set it up level, with a "bucket/dip in the mid section, it would be bad. "You'll want it tipped down in the nose more than you'd think", he instructed. Although it should be noted that Selle SMP says to start out at level and the nose tilt can be anywhere from +10° to -25° after adjustments. 

But Jayme has a point. I did not catch that my WTB Silverado had slipped back in the seat post clamp at BRAN until Day Two and by then I had already done some nerve damage and caused saddle sores I only just recently have overcome. Set-up means everything with a saddle. So I am prepared to be open to different saddle set ups than I would normally think of doing. 

Initial Impressions: This saddle is not light. So, anyone looking to cut weight on a build probably wouldn't look at this saddle as an option. One likely is looking here at an SMP for relief from numbness or for comfort - or both.  

 It is well made. Very well made. I am impressed with the build quality of this saddle and there are not many saddles I've seen which rival the SMP. The leather is soft, pliable, and has a very even grain. Of course, there is every possibility this saddle is "broken in" already. But it does not appear to have many miles on it as the cover looks pristine and I don't see any marring, wear areas, or scratches. 

In the next post I will talk about set up and have a ride impression for you.  

So, here we go..... Stay tuned.