VTBR Reports: Jeff & Cesar

Today we have two short VTBR reports for you to check out. The first is from Jeff. Let's check it out:

Jeff Elsken: Hey GT, I was able to get in a metric century this weekend, 29 miles Thursday and 36 on Sunday. The weather here was much nicer than yours, Thursday was calm, 40's and plenty of sunshine. Sunday was about the same except mid 30's for temps. 

I included a 'me and my shadow' picture on the levee from Thursday. It's been a weird fall, the leaves are finally falling but we haven't had a hard freeze yet so still a lot of green things growing. This is my first completed VTBC. I wanted to thank you for all the work you do to keep your blog entertaining, can't start my day without it.

Next up we have another short report from Cesar, who also has a couple good cold weather riding tips which I have also included in the report here. Check it out! 

 Cesar Nunez: Unfortunately my try to get the Turkey Burn was boycotted by awful weather conditions (pretty icy in Minneapolis western suburbs) and tons of food leftovers, ha ha ha! 

I really wanted to take the challenge and the great idea you proposed to move our bodies and have a great excuse to ride. At least I went out on Saturday for the 1st Fatty ride of the season, just 18 miles. But it was good.

Cesar's Cold Weather Riding Tips: 

 On another topic you guys spoke about getting prepared to ride in cold weather. I use Chamois Butt'r to protect my face from the windchill and frostbite. Apply it on your skin as much as you want/need. It's easy to apply, easy to remove just when you wash your face. It isn't greasy like Vaseline. 

When using pogies, I usually use light gloves but if it's pretty cold, I take an extra pair that I keep around.

For water, I use a free sip, double insulated bottle which has a plastic mouthpiece to sip up an internal straw instead. The water bottle keeps the water out from freezing up in the container and in the mouth piece. I've tried everything, and this type of bottle is the only (that) prevents the water to freeze.

 

I usually, fill it up with warm water that feels very good when drinking in the cold outside.

 

Thanks Cesar! Those are some good ideas to consider when riding in the cold. Cesar also shared a couple of other ideas regarding the structuring of the VTBR and subject suggestions for the podcast and the blog here. I really appreciate suggestions and comments like the ones Cesar shared because it helps me to become better at what I, and N.Y. Roll, are doing for you all. 

 

Okay, there is at least ONE more VTBR report incoming that I am aware of now. So, stay tuned for it to be posted here, hopefully tomorrow.   

VTBR Report: Steve Sprague

 Today we get another VTBR Report from long-time Guitar Ted Productions reader, Steve Sprague. Check it out....

Steve (center) and Friends

 Steve Sprague: My 2025 Virtual Turkey Burn Challenge goal is 100k. I started off on Thanksgiving with two friends riding around Lake Natoma near Sacramento, California for a freezing cold 20 miles. It was in the high 40's! With no sun and all clouds, it was quite cold all day. 

We took all of the dirt trails around the lake to make it more of a gravel ride. Luckily riding my single speed kept me warm. Black Friday was a similar ride that was downstream of Lake Natoma with my lovely wife. Riding from the house, as you all know, has its advantages. We did an out and back along the American River Parkway netting 26.5 miles of mostly dirt trails and fire roads. The weather was the same, mid 40's and cold all ride long. The company kept me warm the whole ride.

All fours from Day 1.

 

High above Nevada City, California

 I decided to finish up my VTBC mountain biking above Nevada City. The sun rays felt so good! I strung together a winding route along the trail network to net my 100k! I was so excited to achieve my goal a second year in a row for the Virtual Turkey Burn Challenge. Looking forward to next year!

Ride totals.

 Thank you for your wonderful blog and Love the Podcast with you and NY Roll!

Thanks Steve! I think it is interesting how some of the submissions show their mileage totals. Not that we wouldn't believe your stories, but the "evidence" is fun to see on the devices you all are using. 

We've got another submission for tomorrow. Stay tuned! 

Rear View 2025: Spring

 Hello! it's time again to review the year on Guitar Ted Productions. The "Rear View" has been a staple of the blog since almost the very beginning. This year will feature  five Rear View posts looking back on   End of Winter, Spring, Summer, Fall, and  Beginning of Winter. I'll also have a post looking ahead at 2026. Enjoy the look back and thanks for reading Guitar Ted Productions!

The Spring months of April, May, and June saw my reviewing duties kick into high gear. I had Continental Terra Adventure tires, Stan's bike care accessories, Rene Herse TPU tubes, Tifosi glasses, and more going on. It kept me on my toes.

There was also a big ride announcement. Since I was car-less and unable to go out of town, N.Y. Roll asked if I'd like to do something for a ride on gravel at some point somewhere in Iowa. We were thinking along the lines of the ride in 2024 we did with Warren Weibe called the Victory Ride. 

We had kicked around a few ideas and landed on doing a ride to the famous Tree In The Road near Atlantic, Iowa. We se a date of June 28th and excitedly made plans. Steve Fuller and Sarah Cooper, along with initial guidance by Rob Evans, led us to a nice looped course out of Atlantic which was around 70-ish miles.

Clik Valve gauge: The Clik Valve review was super popular.

I did get in some country riding in March, May, and June, which was great, but I was still struggling with my schedule at the Cedar Valley Bicycle Collective with regard to how it meshed with family life. 

Saturdays were a disaster now for getting anything done on a bike. Sundays as well. This left Thursday and Friday open, but often times I had meetings for various volunteer groups and we had two cats to take care of as well. (Cat care fell mostly to me.)

So every time I got out into the country was a precious time to me. I was, and am still, very thankful I was and am able to ride. 

Work at the Collective kicks into a higher gear in Spring and I was involved in a couple of bike checks at local farmer's markets. There were clinics to run, and the aforementioned volunteering I do was also a demand. N.Y. Roll and I also kept pumping out podcasts at the rate of about three episodes per month. 

Early Spring ride in the country

 

Getting the Gryphon tested for the Tree In The Road Ride.

Tragedy struck for the first time in 2025 when our cat, Felix, was found dead in the hallway the morning of June 6th. He was "my cat", or more appropriately, "I was his person", so it hit me pretty hard. Not to mention my son, who was the one who found him when he got up to go to work that morning. He was so upset about it he couldn't work and came home from his job early that day. 

One of the hardest things I ever have done was to take Felix\s body out into the woods via my Surly Big Dummy and lay him to rest underneath a tree in the Green Belt. I thought it was the worst thing I'd ever experienced, for some reason, but it was only a dress rehearsal for what would happen about two months later. 

 So, the Tree In The Road Ride was a big highlight for me after the death of Felix the Cat. Getting away with N.Y. Roll was fun, and seeing old friends was awesome. The ride? Well, it was very hot and it wasn't what we had planned, but it was great. A very good time, and I am so appreciative and grateful for all who participated in the ride. It really meant a lot to me, and it still does. 

That led me into Summer, which I will cover next with a review of the months of July and August next. Stay tuned....  

 NOTE: Another VTBR Report will be posted tomorrow. 

Announcing The L.O.G. Ride

A rough draft of the logo. 

 Announcing the L.O.G. Ride:

When: April 17th - 18th, 2026

Where: Eskridge, Kansas 

What: Two days of gravel riding in the Flint Hills with fellowship and fun in between. 

Why: To get together with like-minded riders and celebrate the "legends" of the gravel scene who show up.  

Details: First of all, there will be finer details in the coming days. So, check back here on Guitar Ted Productions for any updates.  Times, how to register, and more will be revealed very soon. The plan is to close up the registration before the end of the year. 

Technically the ride is free to enter, but there will be obligatory tasks for each person who chooses to enter this ride. The organizers are going to divvy up tasks to pull the ride off and will split costs amongst the signed on roster. You'll know what your part in pulling off the ride is once the registration has been closed as all who sign on will become part of a group text to discuss how things will be portioned out as to tasks and then costs will be determined. All signers will know their obligations and will need to contribute to the ride fund by mid-January. 

Included in the ride structure will be food, beverage, accommodations for riders to spend the night, (a possible group housing opportunity is being discussed to help defray costs), and options for either the Friday ride, Saturday ride, or both. 

Registrants will enter via post card, because of course! 

Background: 

Last year I was approached by Warren Weibe, a resident of Kansas, to come down and ride in the Flint Hills. He felt his nephews should know where this whole gravel thing started from and he said I was someone who could not only be an example, but a representative of the genre for them. Well.....maybe that is a debatable thing, but the point is, this ride did not happen this year for various reasons. 

 Now Warren hasn't given up on the idea, and he has partnered with Ryan "Uncle Dudley" Dudley from the old "Ride for Masie's Pride" and other gravel rides. Between the two they are determined to have me down to the Flint Hills to ride. 

I chose the date, they are doing everything else, including the naming of the ride, fine details, and whatnot. I decided to come up with the logo, and this may not get used, but that is fine because I am not in charge of this one. I was just asked to spread the word on this platform and a few of my social media accounts. 

From Ryan Dudley's Facebook account concerning the L.O.G. ride:

"Legends of Gravel, aka L.O.G. ride, is an event Warren Wiebe and I are putting together. The tentative plan is that we'll be operating out of Wild Olives Lodge at Lake Wabaunsee. The idea is that a bunch of old farts, the legends of gravel are going to ride bicycles in the Flint Hills for a couple of days. Maybe some youngsters will want to hang out and ride with us old farts. Guitar Ted is a pioneer of gravel. He's also going to be the 'Big Dill of the Flint Hills' for this amazing gathering of silverbacks. So many more details to come, very soon."

Look for more details to come out very soon. Any questions? Feel free to ask in the comments or e-mail me @g.ted.productions@gmail.com and I will collect those queries and forward them on.

VTBR Report: Mike Baggio

NOTE: We are skipping the usual Friday News and Views for a Virtual Turkey Burn report. 

  Today's VTBR Report comes to us from an old friend and Trans Iowa volunteer, Mike Baggio. He lives in Tennessee now days and files the following report for your reading pleasure:

Mike Baggio: Greetings from Columbia, Tennessee! Got out for several rides over the holiday weekend. The weather was less than ideal but WAY better than the 10+ inches of snow y’all got in the Midwest. 

Flow-trail in Columbia, Tenessee

First ride was on the new, city-built trail system in town. It is a small but flowy and super fun trail. It has multiple jump lines and something for everyone. Parks and Rec has really done a great job! We have two city owned trails and a big system (Chickasaw Trace) that is owned by the county and maintained by our cycling club. I am an average mountain biker (at best) but am very fortunate to have so many good trails within 10 minutes of my house. 

Ridin' Pop's old Trek

 For my second ride, I took my Pop’s old Trek Antelope out for a cruise on the country roads near my house. My dad passed last month but it makes me smile to get out on his old bike and share a smile. Pop was not a cyclist but he rode that old Trek around his neighborhood for 30+ years. 

Nice titanium Salsa Cycles El Mariachi.

 Lastly, I took my trusty old el Mariachi out to pound some hills around the city of Columbia. It is a really great place with a lot of character. I love my new home town and the people that live here. The people at the city do a whole lot for the residents of Columbia. We have good food, music, and arts to share. 

 

Statue of Thurgood Marshall standing in Columbia, Tennessee 

I included a picture of the new Thurgood Marshall statue off the square. It looks great. Marshall successfully defended 25 people wrongly accused in the race riots of 1946. It was a sad time for Columbia. I am proud that my town took time to acknowledge the good and bad part of our local history. It has helped make it the great, diverse place that it is today. The last pic is of me making up the balance of my metric miles on my old spin bike. Looking forward to hear about everyone else’s ride reports!

Mike has been a participant in the Virtual Turkey Burn Ride challenge for a while now. His effort exemplifies the heart of the idea - To motivate people to move and do it in a way which is satisfying and fun. 

I also appreciate Mike's love for his new hometown and the history he shared with us. It's a part of the gravel riding scene as well which makes things even more interesting for everyone. 

NOTE: Saturday I will be making a big announcement concerning a ride in April of 2026. So, we will be taking a break from VTBR Reports for that special announcement. Sunday will see another Rear View review of April, May, and June from the blog this year. VTBR ride reports will commence again this coming Monday.

Thanks for reading Guitar Ted Productions!

Get out and ride those bicycles! 
 

VTBR Report: Robert Fry, Carey Fry

 In today's reports we hear from husband and wife duo, Robert and Carey Fry. They did separate activities, as you will see shortly. Unlike myself, Robert braved the cold, open prairies and gained his metric century. Kudos Robert! Here is Robert's report first:

Robert Fry: The weather forecast for a BIG snowstorm starting Friday night meant that the challenge would need to be completed on Friday. I took down the Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross single speed on Thursday evening and made sure all was ready. 

A nice, light Westerly wind suggested a gravel ride to Parkersburg. To make the distance up to the metric century, I planned a route with a few extra miles North before the rest stop, and a few extra South afterwards. 

The start on Friday was later than I had hoped, close to 11am. With darkness as a deadline, this motivated me to push the pace, and I completed the first 30 miles in just a little over 2 hours. After a routing error, I found myself on a stretch of road I hadn’t ridden before, up on 265th St in Butler County. This turned into a very nice section of B road on Martin Ave by the West Fork of the Cedar River, where I finally turned on to 255th St and came out on Hwy 14. I had now added enough miles before Parkersburg that I could ride the usual, more direct way back. 

The Kwik Star was welcoming as always, with seating where I could rest and enjoy my coffee and sandwich. The direct way home took me on Westbrook St, S Ave and 150th St (Viking Rd). I finished right at 5 hours, and just about exactly 100km at 62.3 miles. It didn’t go above freezing all day, but I was dressed for it and had a great time!

Robert's Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross on the bridge over the West Fork of the Cedar River

 

Westbrook Avenue

Final mileage - 62.3 miles. 

Now for Carey Fry's activities for this period.....

 Carey Fry: Well I didn’t actually do a metric or 100 mile century, but I combined my two favorite sports, and I did feel the burn. I started off riding 19 miles of gravel, then ending up at the Cedar Falls Natatorium for a 3000 yard swim, and a short ride home. Love the end feeling of a good workout!

Hey! It's great to see Carey got out to do some swimming AND riding. Maybe I need to add a duathlon category for the Virtual Turkey Burn! 

VTBR Report: N.Y. Roll

 Our first report was filed by N.Y. Roll. He actually did his ride BEFORE the stated time stamp, but we'll see what he has to say about this after his report. Here is his day from Western New York. 

I started before dawn, I headed south on NYS RT 19, and passed through Pearl Creek, then as the road went left with a bend in the road, I stayed pedaling west and headed to West Middelbury. 

 

I ascended into the hills. I then descended by the church. Then I spent what felt like a lifetime climbing up 12-15% grade trying to get to Attica. I finally got there after a long descent in to the valley. I was happy to only be passed by 5 cars till that point. 

The next leg of the ride was a lot of untraveled roads. Even though I'd been around here in my youth I do not recall the roads I passed down today. Around mile 27 I came across a covered bridge in Folsomdale. Once I crossed the bridge I knew my general direction of travel would be heading east for the remainder of the ride. 

I came across a few sleet/rain cells. Nothing heavy but enough to be concerned. So I went north across the border to Genesee County in Darien Center. I would be on pavement for the remainder of the day.
I ended the day with 63 miles and 3,200ft of climbing. It was a quiet day on the bike.

 

Following are N.Y. Roll's images:

 

 

Finally, N.Y. Roll offers up the following as his defense for doing the VTBR earlier than Thanksgiving Day: 

 In case anyone wants to complain about me doing outside the window.....

 Weather was a BIG factor in many of the reports I received this year. Stay tuned for more VTBR Reports throughout the week and next week as well. 

VTBR Ride Report: Weather Related Failure - Part 2

Note: This is the conclusion of Guitar Ted's Virtual Turkey Burn Ride report. Tomorrow others submissions will begin to be posted with the first received posts until all are worked through which were sent in by the deadline.  

The beginning of the afternoon ride.

Take Two:

I had a great lunch of roasted Italian sausage, roasted vegetables, and a slice of Mrs. Guitar Ted's Kentucky Butter Cake. Then I switched out jerseys, jackets, and socks before heading back out again right at 1:00pm. I also managed to find my Wahoo, so I was able to track mileage a bit more accurately on my second leg. 

The plan was to skip the Green Belt with all the stop-and-go nonesense and see if maybe heading Northwestward to Cedar Falls and looping around Big Woods Lake might prove to be a better way to go. I was hoping it would take less time, as I had about 3.5 hours of good light left before it would get gloomy.  Then maybe it would cloud up for the oncoming storm. If the clouds got thick before Sunset I'd be in the dark sooner. 

So I headed back out on bike path, alleys, and streets before hopping on the bike path by Northland Oil. Some yayhoos had a big motor home parked in the street there at this point which was blocking the road and view ahead. I shook my head as I rolled on by the guys milling about the vehicle.

Not much going on here!

Our Redeemer Lutheran Church, Cedar Falls, Iowa.

When I reached downtown Cedar Falls and the amphitheater/community space at the corner of State Street and Second I turned toward the river on the dedicated bike path to get to the path which reaches around the back end of the area, goes underneath the highway, and along the riverside. But before I got to the top of the little hill I met an SUV with a woman driver who was going down the path toward the set up area for a community gathering later celebrating the beginning of the holiday season. I suppose she thought she was being smart and efficient since she wouldn't have to park in the street with the plebeians and haul whatever she had over where it needed to be? Maybe.  

Either way she shouldn't have been on the bike path driving an SUV, and by her look of trying not to see me as she whizzed by, it was obvious she knew. Oh....she knew. 

Ducks gliding across Big Woods Lake

Heading into George Wyth State Park

There was an uncanny amount of cars coming into and out of the City composting area which the bike path comes near to at one point. It stank of something horrible burning as well. Yuck! I was glad to leave this area, but I was also going to have to come back through it one more time. My plan was to loop around Big Woods Lake on the bike path to get some more mileage, then head back to the house on the North/East side of the Cedar River. 

This would take me through George Wyth State Park. I was hoping to find the little gazebo along the river and stop to rest and drink water. On the way in I saw a few folks running.. I suppose it was their way of burning the turkey. I was foiled in my plan to stop at the gazebo because I had to stop to cross a dead fall....

More carnage as a result of Tuesday's windstorm. 

 

Go ride in the woods to get out of the wind, they say. It'll be fine!

I ran across a couple big blow-downs and several branches on the trail in George Wyth. Just a good reminder here to stay out of the woods in this area when the winds are gusty and strong. You never know when some dead tree, branch, or limb will come crashing down on you. This is why I do not ride anywhere near trees - or out in the open country, obviously - when it is very windy here. 

My path homeward took me by many small lakes, backwaters of the Cedar River, and the river itself. 

 

The Cedar River near Tibbits Park

Reality Sets In: 

I was getting pretty fatigued by this point. I was happy with my mileage and it looked like I was going to top 40 miles on the day. This doesn't sound like much, but the Green Belt was slower going and I was running out of time and energy to do anything more in the afternoon. It was barely 30 degrees, so being cold also burns up energy as well as the riding. 

Pogies saved my hands from freezing, and perhaps if I had set up the old On One Inbred for this riding I may have spent less energy on pedaling and would still have been able to use pogies since the Inbred has flat bars. But I used what I used and the Ti Muk is surprisingly light. Anyway, I was doing the best I could at the time. I also knew I was not going to get my metric century in if this weather was coming. 

Big game hunting in Exchange Park. This cement elephant is a remnant of an old theme park. 

 

Along the Cedar River in downtown Waterloo, Iowa.

I was thinking I may as well head over to the Collective and hang the signs telling people we'd be closed Saturday due to the weather. Kind of like my Virtual Turkey Burn Ride, it would be shut down by the arrival of Winter. Fall was going away, and a new season is upon us now. 

Saturday morning @ 9:00am.

Turns Out "They" Were Right: 

I ended up with 42 miles. It started snowing Friday evening, and by Saturday morning it was clear that I was going to be socked in and the VTBR for me was over. Shut down by weather. 

I'm not too bummed about it. I got the Blackborow DS out and plunked around a bit on Sunday, but whatever mileage I got will not approach the metric goal. It's okay. I did well by riding most of the day on Friday and turkey was burned. This was the goal anyway.

Now for gearing up for some fat biking in snow. The forecast appears to be saying we will stay cold for the near term. This snow is more than enough to play around in, (14+ inches!), so I look forward to hitting up some trails and riding in Winter conditions for a bit. We have not had a good Winter for this in several years. 

That is a wrap on my Virtual Turkey Burn Ride Report. Following will be a few reports I have received and there should be several more coming in. As of this writing I have two in and I know of at least three others who said they were doing this challenge and were posting images over the weekend of their riding. 

Stay tuned for those reports all week long. If enough come in I may have to extend the reportage through the weekend and into next week. Thanks to all who either are doing the full challenge, or to anyone who was inspired by this just to get out and ride. I appreciate all of you. 

VTBR Report: Weather Related Failure - Part 1

  Note: The first Turkey Burn Ride Report is from Guitar Ted. Others will follow after his report in the order they were received. 

 Pre-Burn:

Early last week the weather people started crowing about colder air coming and a big Winter storm after Thanksgiving. We had been seeing regular temperatures into the 50's, but this was to go away and our highs would be barely reaching the low 30's by the day after Thanksgiving. 

I scrapped my original plans for a recap of "Jacob's Ride" on gravel. It would be just way too cold for this and I wasn't acclimated to being out riding in near-zero wind chills and temperatures in teens and 20's. Additionally, any wind at all would be a big issue out in the open with zero ground cover now that the crops are out. 

So, I re-upped the tubeless sealant on the front wheel of my Ti Mukluk, (the rear wheel had been done some time ago now). I installed the 45NRTH pogies on it. I went over all the contents of the two bags on the bike and fitted water bottles so everything would be set up the way I'd need it after Thanksgiving. I test rode the bike on my test loop both Sunday and Monday. It pained me to think the 50 degree temperatures would be gone. Tuesday came along and the evening of Tuesday and into Wednesday we had high winds of up to 50mph. This would also end up affecting my ride on Friday. 

Friday after Thanksgiving in the Green Belt.

An Attempt Was Made:

My gut told me I was going to end up being in the same pickle I found myself in last year. The VTBR in 2024 saw me ducking into the Green Belt and other local bike paths to rack up short bits of mileage over three days.  

However; there was this pesky snow storm which was being hyped up over the days leading up to Thanksgiving. By Wednesday there were Winter Storm Warnings in effect for Saturday through Sunday with predictions varying from 8" to as high as 14" in our area. This meant I was going to have to pack in as much riding as I could on Friday, which fortunately was Sunny to start out with and would have gentle breezes instead of a stiff, cold wind.  

I made it out by 9;20am in the morning. When I awoke at 6;00am it was a bone-chilling 15°F. That was too cold for my tastes after living in 50 degree days for several weeks just prior to this. So, I had decided to wait for the Sun to get up a bit and the temperatures to begin to crawl upward.  

 

I started out on the nearby bike path

I got in a short bit of gravel road!

Then I ended up in the Green Belt for quite a long while.

One snafu before I left for the ride was my misplacing of my Wahoo GPS unit. Since I was in a hurry to get going and since I was using a similar route from last year to start out, I was fine with this. However; my plan would require my finding the confounded thing before the end of the day. 

Onward. My fear was I would run into a ton of dead falls due to the violent wind storm we went through Tuesday night into Wednesday. However; I did not immediately run into anything impassable. I did have to dismount and remove a 4" diameter branch which was right in the tread of the trail. Immediately after this I ran across a woman trail running who shouted out she had "cleared the trail for me". I responded I had also done so for her. She turned around and shouted something else after I had passed her, but I couldn't make it out. It did sound friendly, at least! 

I used little used spurs and branches of the trail to up the mileage. 

There ended up being several places where I had to get off and walk around big dead falls. 

The Green Belt ended up becoming a work of riding a fair distance, coming around a blind corner to have to jump on the binders to avoid crashing into a dead fall, and then either clearing the trail as best I could, or working around stuff which was too big to deal with. Not only was this time consuming, but I also had issues with the foam gaskets on the pogies where the handle bar and cables passed through the ends of the pogies. Those foam pieces were shifting and wanting to fall out. The Green Belt trails were rough, and the dirt was frozen and unforgiving. This ended up rattling out one of the gaskets, which I lost, and displacing the other. I ended up stopping to fix this issue. 

The Green Belt Lake

Rapids on Black Hawk Creek which I saw on my return leg.

All the stopping and starting was eating away at time. Eventually I was stopped about a mile from the end of the trails Southward by a giant mess of deadfalls and no good way to scoot around it. With time being so precious, and my being so close to the turnaround point, I just made a decision to head back the way I had come, well....mostly. 

I did use other spurs and loops of the trail going back I had skipped going outbound. This added up mileage. I got home with a solid 25 miles in and I arrived at home just in time for lunch. I was hungry, so this was a good thing. The plan was to eat, change out some clothing, and head back out again in the afternoon to get in as much as possible. 

Stay tuned for Part 2 and the conclusion of my report tomorrow.